Game Mechanics: NPC Summon Isssue

[Tecmos Deception]

I know that sub-51 caster can be killed with line-of-sight shenanigans like this without them ever casting, cause when they're rooted they will try to attack the nearest target even if it is out of LoS while another target standing slightly farther away but in line of sight will be totally ignored.

Not sure if that is helpful or not. I've never really paid attention to if stuff will summon a pet from out of LoS.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can be killed with line-of-sight shenanigans

Interested in all shenanigans.

[Treats]

I encountered a similar issue to this a long time ago, not sure if it was ever fixed.

As Tecmos said an NPC will not alter targets if one PC is standing around a corner and another PC is closer but in Line of Sight.

NPC should first check Line of Sight when rooted
If it cannot see closest PC it should keep checking until it has a PC in Line of Sight

The other issue I found (this was back in 2010) was that if a PC target was out of Line of Sight the NPC would not be able to cast any spells. An NPC that could heal himself when he got low would not if his target PC was out of Line of Sight.

Fight Shaman NPC
Root/DoT Shaman NPC at 40%
Run around corner
Shaman NPC will not attempt to cast ANY spells (Detrimental or Beneficial) while his PC target is out of Line of Sight

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I encountered a similar issue to this a long time ago, not sure if it was ever fixed.

As Tecmos said an NPC will not alter targets if one PC is standing around a corner and another PC is closer but in Line of Sight.

NPC should first check Line of Sight when rooted
If it cannot see closest PC it should keep checking until it has a PC in Line of Sight

The other issue I found (this was back in 2010) was that if a PC target was out of Line of Sight the NPC would not be able to cast any spells. An NPC that could heal himself when he got low would not if his target PC was out of Line of Sight.

Fight Shaman NPC
Root/DoT Shaman NPC at 40%
Run around corner
Shaman NPC will not attempt to cast ANY spells (Detrimental or Beneficial) while his PC target is out of Line of Sight

Not sure what you mean by a long time ago exactly, but I first noticed this probably 6-9 months ago when trying to PL a shaman in HS north using my chanter. We realized he could dot up the casters while standing out in the open without getting attacked back, so long as 1) I was on the mob's aggro list too, 2) the mob was rooted, 3) I was closer to the mob than he was, and 4) I was out of line of sight. I think I've mentioned it in the bug forums a couple of times, but I kind of figured it was a pretty minor issue - doesn't seem like a lot of potential to exploit this given how specific of a quirk it is.

Kind of building on the rest that treats said though, NPCs who can cast beneficial spells never will if they are engaged but never in melee range of their attackers. Root+rot goblins at chief+bodguard? The healer goblins will never get to heal. Maybe classic though, I just thought this odd.