ToV Quest Armor Farming

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red99. No lines. Take what you want.

Be men.

Seriously dude, this just reminds me of a failed apocephalus borealis attack, people that want everything easy already moved on to warcraft, you should follow them if that's what you really like and don't hold back, there's about 10 million players there.

Annoying us with "go red" constantly is just making you sound desperate for people to play on the red server.

[Grubbz]

Blue sucks, Red sucks, need new pve classic server with no RMT.

[Took]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red99 had a chance when it launched of being a populated server. Instead people chose to exploit plat quests when they could and kill level 2 newbies in their home town while the guards watched.

Wrong. Red99 had a great launch, Rogean released VP about 2 days later though and completely killed a lot of players drives to stay on red. Most hardcore TMO / IB left and went back to blue to raid VP.

Some months later Rogean nuked the guild <Holocaust> and banned or suspended all its members for a strat to kill Vox that Nihilum was also using. Rogean was never a fan of this guild or its members due to their shady histories. After this Nihilum took off, the box nearly died and went on life support, and Nihilum had uncontested farming of all raid content for a year or more.

The experience rates being raised was a constant argument.

Yellow text not being in from the start.

The debate over teams.

There is a lot more to it than you think, believe me. Rogean and Nilbog do a great job with these servers but when it has come to Red99, some serious mistakes were made.

With that said, Red99 has become a lot better. Double the exp of blue, YT, competitive guilds and a raid scene. 100 more new faces or so would make it even better. It's nice playing a server where every single exp or item camp doesn't have a line of people waiting to get it. And if you want something bad enough just kill the other person and take it. None of this variance bullshit or raid rules.

More people should play it imo. I always hear rumors about the playerbase griefing noobs off. Have yet to ever see it. Most people are helpful and I've been giving items and buffs to noobs as I run into them.

[Grubbz]

i always felt like the p99 staff had a ton of favoritism going on.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Took [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. Red99 had a great launch, Rogean released VP about 2 days later though and completely killed a lot of players drives to stay on red. Most hardcore TMO / IB left and went back to blue to raid VP.

Some months later Rogean nuked the guild <Holocaust> and banned or suspended all its members for a strat to kill Vox that Nihilum was also using. Rogean was never a fan of this guild or its members due to their shady histories. After this Nihilum took off, the box nearly died and went on life support, and Nihilum had uncontested farming of all raid content for a year or more.

The experience rates being raised was a constant argument.

Yellow text not being in from the start.

The debate over teams.

There is a lot more to it than you think, believe me. Rogean and Nilbog do a great job with these servers but when it has come to Red99, some serious mistakes were made.

With that said, Red99 has become a lot better. Double the exp of blue, YT, competitive guilds and a raid scene. 100 more new faces or so would make it even better. It's nice playing a server where every single exp or item camp doesn't have a line of people waiting to get it. And if you want something bad enough just kill the other person and take it. None of this variance bullshit or raid rules.

More people should play it imo. I always hear rumors about the playerbase griefing noobs off. Have yet to ever see it. Most people are helpful and I've been giving items and buffs to noobs as I run into them.

God, I remember the Holocaust ban. That seemed EXTREMELY heavy handed, especially compared to what has happened on blue. You can't have two factions on a pvp server and suddenly ban half of the server.

[Marglar]

Originally Posted by Took [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always hear rumors about the playerbase griefing noobs off. Have yet to ever see it..

pretty sure that was a large reason why the put in the PnP.

when I started on red it was a total shit show. if you won a pvp encounter, they'd bind rush, train, port in uber twinks and oor healers to assist, turn the tides and camp you. if you went down, it was in your best interest to just log off for a while or play an alt. people couldn't even be decent human beings when you'd ask permission to loot and scoot. this was not a rare occurrence, this was most of them. there was absolutely zero respect for peoples time, it was largely a big grief bonerfest and whoever had the most patience and firepower to call in. total waste of time, most of it wasn't real pvp. I played on TZ on live, and I played on most of the other prior pvp emulated servers and enjoyed them.. but really couldn't get in to this one. I am but one person, but several of my friends felt the same, and I have to imagine a ton more stopped playing there due to that shit.

the PnP is a good idea in theory, and it would work if people embraced it and flipped the switch to stop being assholes to one another, but you can't force that mentality on people that have already adapted to a die hard cut throat way of playing. I hopped back on after they introduced the PnP and it was just a bunch of people arguing non stop about semantics and work arounds and complaining. I have a 30 rogue in old world gear that I am looking forward to playing again at some point, but I'm kinda waiting to see how the server turns out and what the big plans are for it before I invest any time there again.

[pasi]

Farming WToV and EToV trash for armor drops is a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemies.

Lord have mercy on those of you actually looking forward to it.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Took [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More people should play it imo. I always hear rumors about the playerbase griefing noobs off. Have yet to ever see it. Most people are helpful and I've been giving items and buffs to noobs as I run into them.

First time i played on red i made a woof elf ranger and got to level 6 and went into CB for first time. I got a few too many mobs and ran to zone to see a wizard standing there. i stop to tell him to zone out and he preceeds to root me. then a high level druid zones in and kills train while wizard tries to kill me. root breaks i zone out they follow and wizard kills me. He then sits on my corpse for 20 mins. I never really had another interest in red after that. 2 Nilly toons. happened like 8 months ago or so.

[Claytonhowell]

Originally Posted by Artaenc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and zone in level required for ToV is 46 if I remember correctly is classic. why wouldn't anyone not take their lvl 46 twink to tov when they have their main char fully geared? that's like saying nobody will get a rogue epic for their level 1 twink. I don't remember if you can MQ quest drops from ToV but that will be the next guild farming spot if it works.

You could zone in at level 1 to ToV and Skyshrine if you could make it there and had the key. It was after they put level requirements on items and made a level requirement to enter Time (After/during GoD) that they put the level requirement in ToV. I remember several sub level 46 toons sitting on dragon spawn points. If the mob was up your spotter got a rez once your mob killed it. That and you had Level 1's running around with 1k hp/ac from rot loots. I remember level 1-20's leaching off our ae faction groups in Kael then running strait to get their Skyshrine key and then off to sit on mobs in E-W-N Tov.

Level 1's got way more powerful in Time once you got the flagged. That and the people who used to de-level once we cleared time/Tanvu/Tacvi back to level 10 and then blow through old content with Raid Max gear and max aa. Almost all of the gear could be clicked / proced at level 1.

[Daldaen]

What are you smoking? Time never allowed level 1s in, even in alpha it required 65 to zone in. And all that gear always had level 65 Req.... I don't even...