GM's.. Are you listening?

[heartbrand]

If you don't think the end game here turns players away then I don't know what to tell you. While it is obviously not the only issue (the ghost town environment with zero groups from 1-60 is huge) it's a HUGE issue.

[quido]

I know HB - I think Nihilum is even more spineless and weak for taking apps they don't need just to spit in the opposition's face over some perceived slight.

[mikemandella]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know HB - I think Nihilum is even more spineless and weak for taking apps they don't need just to spit in the opposition's face over some perceived slight.

You know I respect you Jeremy, but without personal attacks from either side let's get our points out there and not scare away the GM's from adding input..

I'm gonna say that you think the guilds could come to some type of agreement? I am not involved with blue as much as you. Has being forced to work together on blue helped make it better for EVERYONE?

- Oppressor

[quido]

Originally Posted by mikemandella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know I respect you Jeremy, but without personal attacks from either side let's get our points out there and not scare away the GM's from adding input..

I'm gonna say that you think the guilds could come to some type of agreement? I am not involved with blue as much as you. Has being forced to work together on blue helped make it better for EVERYONE?

- Oppressor

I'm not trying to attack anyone in particular here - this is just the reality of the dynamic on red. There's no cure for being a weakling. I don't blame Nihilum for doing what they do - it is completely rational - but it makes for a crap box all the same.

I don't really feel like pontificating regarding blue at the moment.

I think shrinking the PvP level range is a good start. Aside from that and other ideas that have been shot down, I'm not sure what else can be done to help foster a better environment across the board here. Maybe people should recruit a different breed of people to this server instead of people who just want to make it to the top as quickly and effortlessly as possible. I don't know.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't think the end game here turns players away then I don't know what to tell you. While it is obviously not the only issue (the ghost town environment with zero groups from 1-60 is huge) it's a HUGE issue.

I think I've come to realize that the majority of people who start here just want some casual PVP and/or a faster exp rate. The way things are setup now actually may help retain some players believe it or not, as they can join Nihilum and don't have 3 hour PVP battles over every dragon. The die hards that come with blood lust are few and far between.

Most people never make it to the high end to see what its like, they are griefed off by untagged RD/Azrael alts in Unrest or MM. Sorry to turn this post somewhat inflammatory but I watched with my own two eyes the way the level 20-50 game is on this server as my brother solo'd up on his monk. He was basically followed into every nook and cranny of any outdoor Kunark exp zones by rangers like Exed and murdered, all the while being told to app to RD. Basically, join or die. Your guild causes as many if not more problems with this server population with that behavior, plus a couple choice murderbots in group friendly exp zones, then Nihilum does with their dominance and stranglehold of the top 1% of the game.

For all the shit you guys give Tune about murdering level 52s, he could have had a full VP geared warrior or rogue in Unrest obliterating everyone in site and never did, and so could many Nihilum members.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I've come to realize that the majority of people who start here just want some casual PVP and/or a faster exp rate. The way things are setup now actually may help retain some players believe it or not, as they can join Nihilum and don't have 3 hour PVP battles over every dragon. The die hards that come with blood lust are few and far between.

Most people never make it to the high end to see what its like, they are griefed off by untagged RD/Azrael alts in Unrest or MM. Sorry to turn this post somewhat inflammatory but I watched with my own two eyes the way the level 20-50 game is on this server as my brother solo'd up on his monk. He was basically followed into every nook and cranny of any outdoor Kunark exp zones by rangers like Exed and murdered, all the while being told to app to RD. Basically, join or die. Your guild causes as many if not more problems with this server population with that behavior, plus a couple choice murderbots in group friendly exp zones, then Nihilum does with their dominance and stranglehold of the top 1% of the game.

For all the shit you guys give Tune about murdering level 52s, he could have had a full VP geared warrior or rogue in Unrest obliterating everyone in site and never did, and so could many Nihilum members.

Nihi has many Unrest twinks, and who cares about that insignificant shit? Ugh you're fucking retarded.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nihi has many Unrest twinks, and who cares about that insignificant shit? Ugh you're fucking retarded.

Pretty sure the groups of legit level 20s getting wrecked by Mrbigs cares a lot more about this "insignificant shit" then if RD has a shot at killing Trakanon this week.

But hey, everyone who starts here spawns as a level 60 with all their spells right? So that low level shit is just for show.