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Old 02-04-2014, 04:11 PM
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All they care about is conflicts, that is the reason they are defending Lord Bob.
Pardon, but the issue I have is that I don't like it when one guild or group of guilds shits on another guild. I didn't like it when TMO did it to FE/BDA/everyone else, and I don't like it now.

I'm speaking my mind in this particular instance because I find it unfair that Doljon is getting called out for not acquiescing to the play-style of guilds like bda, taken, and ag, when their entire argument during these raid talks is to not force play-styles on others.

BDA/Taken/AG/etc didn't want to be forced into competing with TMO/FE/IB because they were unable or unwilling to do so. Why is Doljon suddenly the exception, just because they won't conform to the more casual play style?

I never once defended Doljon's actions in sky outlined in this thread. I didn't even speak to them.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:12 PM
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Shouldnt this violate the play nice policy instituted by GMs and result in raid suspensions? (sorry im not reading 11 pages to find out - only the OP)
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:13 PM
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I have a great idea. How about BDA start playing nice with people and treating them fairly instead of trying to make the whole server play how you want them to play or threaten/berate/flame/blacklist them?
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:14 PM
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Shouldnt this violate the play nice policy instituted by GMs and result in raid suspensions? (sorry im not reading 11 pages to find out - only the OP)
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:17 PM
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I have a great idea. How about BDA start playing nice with people and treating them fairly instead of trying to make the whole server play how you want them to play or threaten/berate/flame/blacklist them?
You mean like TMO forced everyone to play for the past 18+ months?

Also, there will be no blacklisting by BDA, period. Additionally, we tried to play nice with Dolj as evidenced by at least 3 other BDA members that posted in this thread, they don't give a fuck.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:17 PM
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I'm glad somebody (from the staff) called out the fact that people are doing the exact same thing that was done to TMO except now its Lord Bob instead.
And why wouldn't people be reacting the same way?

If a minority (3 guilds) are trying to dictate how all the guilds are going to play, then things needed to change. Rogean changed them.

Now, within the Class R construct that was designed to alleviate those issues, we once again have a minority (1 guild) trying to dictate to the rest of the guilds in Class R how the raid scene is going to work. Yes, the same shit is happening because a minority refuses to respect the way the majority wants to play the game.

Lord Bob is trying to dictate a competitive environment to 6-7 guilds that decided to go a different direction. Why does a minority get to continue to dictate to the majority within Class R? That's how shit went down for 2+ years... I thought we were fixing that. It's just unfortunate staff is showing bias toward a particular style of play when they should be neutral.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:19 PM
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Love the fact that these multi-year old guilds are talking so much shit about how bad a guild that is a few months old is. Not to mention the fact that beyond the small core of awesome people, they're trying to raid with the dregs of the fuckin' server.

It used to blow my mind that some of you guys are unaware of your own hypocrisy, but nowadays nothing surprises me here.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:19 PM
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Pardon, but the issue I have is that I don't like it when one guild or group of guilds shits on another guild. I didn't like it when TMO did it to FE/BDA/everyone else, and I don't like it now.

I'm speaking my mind in this particular instance because I find it unfair that Doljon is getting called out for not acquiescing to the play-style of guilds like bda, taken, and ag, when their entire argument during these raid talks is to not force play-styles on others.

BDA/Taken/AG/etc didn't want to be forced into competing with TMO/FE/IB because they were unable or unwilling to do so. Why is Doljon suddenly the exception, just because they won't conform to the more casual play style?

I never once defended Doljon's actions in sky outlined in this thread. I didn't even speak to them.
The other guilds only started to "shit on them" because from when they first formed on this server they were coming into people's Hate/Fear clears and causing disruptions. They basically told people to fuck off they were going to go against etiquette and do what they wanted.

This was WAY before the whole raid suspension and Class C/Class R stuff.

What are you failing to understand here? No one in these guilds just decided to shit on Lord Bob for no reason - they brought it on themselves with their actions well before Sky/Raid drama took place in December.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:19 PM
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[QUOTE=Derubael;1305491]I'm speaking my mind in this particular instance because I find it unfair that Doljon is getting called out for not acquiescing to the play-style of guilds like bda, taken, and ag, when their entire argument during these raid talks is to not force play-styles on others./QUOTE]

Clearly the playstyles of the guilds that abide by the Sky rotation (that would be every other guild on the server) don't matter at all.
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Old 02-04-2014, 04:20 PM
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I'm speaking my mind in this particular instance because I find it unfair that Doljon is getting called out for not acquiescing to the play-style of guilds like bda, taken, and ag, when their entire argument during these raid talks is to not force play-styles on others.

BDA/Taken/AG/etc didn't want to be forced into competing with TMO/FE/IB because they were unable or unwilling to do so. Why is Doljon suddenly the exception, just because they won't conform to the more casual play style?
Because we once again have a minority forcing a majority to play a certain way.
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