Congratulations Lord Bob

[Jaxon]

Originally Posted by Wrench [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha, this thread is awesome

derubaby is trollin you all and you dont even get it

Or is he??!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFMWNgDO7ZU

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying no one has implied, implicitly or explicitly, that Doljon needs to get off Class R? Or the entire server?

That's just from a brief glance at this thread. Plenty of other threads and posts highlight the 'Doljon, gtfo' attitude.

A blacklisting isn't telling them to GTFO... it is literally the only sanctions players can impose on another guild to enforce an agreement made by guilds/players. It would compel them to make peace with the other guilds in Class R and be a part of the drama-free rotation we have established.

Or, like I said, they can join Class C to share in the same playstyle the Class C guilds enjoy. Or would BDA have your support in going over to C and imposing on them our preferred style of play? Of course not.

[Fael]

Loraen: It isn't hard for me to believe: I totally give you the benefit of the doubt. You and most A-Teamer's are generally very reasonable.

What i've always heard, however, is that when Dolj tried to get on the schedule, the basic response was that there wasn't room, or no one was willing to work with them to help meet their needs. Perhaps what I heard is completely wrong. I don't know. I'm not privy to your converstatios, negotiations, etc.

But, I see Dolj get treated very similar to how we got treated in enraptured, when we were trying to establish ourselves as a raid guild, and basically got forced into merging into TMO because we couldn't recruit because the traditional guilds went on a PR campaign to run us down.

Dolic

[Burrito]

Originally Posted by Miser [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How can I be any more clear? They want the competition. Bring it on. The rest of us just want you to stop crying about it.

I haven't seen a single post from one of the guys in Dolj sobbing about unfair treatment. Seems to me that they're too busy playing EQ.

Why don't we just give them a complimentary bump up to class C

[Derubael]

My understanding of Doljon from this thread:

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[Miser]

How many times does this need to be repeated? They aren't a class C guild. They would get murdered by the guilds there, just as you guys did. Why should they have to put up with that if you guys don't?

The problem here is fundamental. You guys think class R means one thing, and the GMs think it's another. Maybe we need to go back to the drawing board?

[triad]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A blacklisting isn't telling them to GTFO... it is literally the only sanctions players can impose on another guild to enforce an agreement made by guilds/players. It would compel them to make peace with the other guilds in Class R and be a part of the drama-free rotation we have established.

Or, like I said, they can join Class C to share in the same playstyle the Class C guilds enjoy. Or would BDA have your support in going over to C and imposing on them our preferred style of play? Of course not.

grow a pair and quite your bitching for more then a day please .. they dont gotta do shit if they dont want... why does bda seem to bitch so damn much.. .add this whole rotation bullshit and they havnt had a day without some kinda bitchfilled issue with someone else

[Tecmos Deception]

Well that was a fun 23 pages.

[triad]

Originally Posted by Miser [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys think class R means one thing, and the GMs think it's another. Maybe we need to go back to the drawing board?

or do it as the gms say it? jsut because someones too stupid to grasp what is going on doesnt mean you rewrite it in picturebook form

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really play EQ that way?

Your post shows you quoted me but when I quote you it shows you quoted something else, so maybe this wasn't directed towards me but...I haven't raided since 2011 and it will be a bit before I'm raiding again. My opinions are from an outside perspective so take it for what it's worth, but yeah, if someone comes stomping castles in my sandbox, I'm not going to piss and moan about it and not act. I'm going to round up my buddies and do what needs to be done if I can. But that's just me and I'm a little more for the competitive end-game than the rotated end-game.

I get where both sides are coming from, but I'm calling it as I see it. And as I see it, the GMs made clear that what Dolj is doing is a-okay. So now it's up to the other guilds to adapt. Doesn't matter if they are dicks or not.