A wall of text on the global XP modifier, global OOC

[Fame]

Just wipe it clean, fuck.

[dreama1]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most people quit before they get to that point because there is no one in their level range. It's not fun for most people to solo your way to 52.

Also, do what? Shit's classic. We're not going to dictate when and where people can hit raid targets. But if people are more inclined to stick with their characters when they do hit 52 (because they have more time invested in their character, have met more people, and gotten more experience in PvP), the turnover rate at 52+ will significantly decrease.

Well, I'm not that high enough to raid, but weren't people talking about variance?

Yes, i think everyone all agrees that soloing pales to grouping, but instead of soloing people are going to be waiting for groups that never come.

The thing is if you already know the problem, trying to do other stuff isn't going to eradicate the problem at all.. Pink elephant in the room and all that. .

I think a wipe is actually a good solution

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll submit my Red99 experience as evidence.

Rolled a ranger, leveled quickly up to 51 and was given a ton of gear by various friendly players. This included a Woodsman's Staff (from Nihilum) and a full set of Seb Scale armor.

Helped a buddy in Dalnir get his crescent, died on a goofy "it's the end of the night so lets try Overseer" attempt. Never logged back on, let all the gear rot. I literally couldn't have given two shits to even just make the run back to that corpse. I could have logged on after the fact and had a GM retrieve it...to this day I still don't care.

The biggest reason is that I leveled so quickly, mostly solo, that I just really didn't have any attachment to it. Without the investment of effort there is no investment in the rewards. So that being the case, I support Deru's post 100%.

Thanks for posting this, I've spoken to many people who shared the same experience (no investment + few relationships made along the way = no reason to stick around). I doubt any of the people I've talked to even read the forums, so I'm glad you said something.

Lower XP bonus = slower leveling = more groups = more attachment to the server and its players = lower turnover.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by dreama1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

waiting for groups that never come.

Out of 60 newly created characters on red 99 for february 15th, I checked 30. Out of those 30, 10 were brand new players who had never logged into red. These numbers hold pretty consistent.

Originally Posted by Dreama1

The thing is if you already know the problem

The end game is only a small part of a much larger problem involving a high turnover rate among people who play here at all level ranges. The raid scene is just specific to people who reach 52+.

That's enough forumquesting for me tonight, but I did want to say:

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[dreama1]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for posting this, I've spoken to many people who shared the same experience (no investment + few relationships made along the way = no reason to stick around). I doubt any of the people I've talked to even read the forums, so I'm glad you said something.

Lower XP bonus = slower leveling = more groups = more attachment to the server and its players = lower turnover.

Anyway, if the xp nerf comes to pass, i will stop playing on here, the population is not tenable for grouping. Any way you slice it, to force it would be devastating to any newbies in my opinion.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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And I understand you're not being combative, no worries.

Ok, that's cool. I hope you're right. I'd like to see more people on.

[heartbrand]

I'm happy to report that there's been some progress between guilds on a better end game experience on red99. That's all for now.

[Smedy]

durabel if you guys really gave a shit you'd enable 2boxing

1. its classic
2. youll never substain a pop high enough to be healthy for european players, even p99 blue is down to 200 on euro hours and it gets over 1000 on us hours, we suppose to just quit or can you legalize 2 boxing for euros srsly?

[lite]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

durabel if you guys really gave a shit you'd enable 2boxing

1. its classic
2. youll never substain a pop high enough to be healthy for european players, even p99 blue is down to 200 on euro hours and it gets over 1000 on us hours, we suppose to just quit or can you legalize 2 boxing for euros srsly?

[Nocsucow]

blue is never down to 200 homie.. 420 is the lowest ive seen in awhile and thats 4am CST