A wall of text on the global XP modifier, global OOC

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Tongpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hope they change their minds on this, just rolled on red looks like i might be too late to the party

Stick it out man, velious gonna bring dat pop influx. Join a guild, no matter what i think of guilds on server, i think its safe to say everyone honestly wants a population influx so youll get some form of help whatever crew you pick.

[Sturgeon]

Originally Posted by Tongpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hope they change their minds on this, just rolled on red looks like i might be too late to the party

Same. I'm still a neckbeard and will play though but I've only seen someone in my zones when someone made an alt and ran through zone to get Druid pick up.

[Tubben]

I am still shocked, that Derubal seems to believe that lowering the xp bonus will help the server. There arent groups who will form strong bonds because they suddenly xp lower.

Derubal, you should create an untwinked character on red99 and level him to 51, and then tell me how many groups you found.

Ok, i am an european, i cant speak for the east time zone, but while i play there are maximal 100 people serverwide online and i bet 90 of them are 50+. I had a group ONCE. The rest of the time i just run solo through the world.

Untwinked you still need plenty of time to reach 50+, and you are forced to play an class who can solo. Lowering the xp bonus wont do any good for the server. But well, just do it and watch the result.

I said it before, you should up the xp bonus even more, so people reach 51 in no time (while removing the cost for spells up to 51), so the playerbase is at 51. There groups will happen.

Just log on, use your guide powers and watch the levelspread while offtime and while primetime, and then tell me how many groups 1-50 COULD happen if people group in levelranges up to 5 level, BELOW level 50.

But please remove FoH chars from this, simply no one will group with them anyway (And they wont group with any other). Also keep in mind that Nihilum wont group with RD and several other guilds.

[Kergan]

Well, to defend Derubael a little bit here when you're approaching a big issue it's best to have solutions to deploy in both the short and long term.

Reducing exp rate may be a long term solution, but I believe it to be extremely detrimental in the short term.

We have lots of suggestions for short term fixes to see if we can start the population growth. Would it not be a better idea to attempt those first to see if we can create an environment where you can reliably find groups before doing the exp changes outlined in the OP?

[Tradesonred]

Theres not going to be a good long term if short term the population keeps spiraling down and it snowballs into less and less people logging in. People whove been playing here since 2011 have seen the population dip down as xp is nerfed, multiple times.

Its not rocket science

[dreama1]

Originally Posted by Tubben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am still shocked, that Derubal seems to believe that lowering the xp bonus will help the server. There arent groups who will form strong bonds because they suddenly xp lower.

Derubal, you should create an untwinked character on red99 and level him to 51, and then tell me how many groups you found.

Ok, i am an european, i cant speak for the east time zone, but while i play there are maximal 100 people serverwide online and i bet 90 of them are 50+. I had a group ONCE. The rest of the time i just run solo through the world.

Untwinked you still need plenty of time to reach 50+, and you are forced to play an class who can solo. Lowering the xp bonus wont do any good for the server. But well, just do it and watch the result.

I said it before, you should up the xp bonus even more, so people reach 51 in no time (while removing the cost for spells up to 51), so the playerbase is at 51. There groups will happen.

Just log on, use your guide powers and watch the levelspread while offtime and while primetime, and then tell me how many groups 1-50 COULD happen if people group in levelranges up to 5 level, BELOW level 50.

But please remove FoH chars from this, simply no one will group with them anyway (And they wont group with any other). Also keep in mind that Nihilum wont group with RD and several other guilds.

I agree with this; the server is top heavy - that is a fact.

Stunting people's progression will end up with new players seeing less pvp because they won't be able to level due to not being able to find groups a) because no ooc serverwide b) there are no people to group with.

Taking a sample size of 30 chars and saying 10 were new people is hardly scientific proof of a booming population. A better estimate would be the population of people from 5-35..

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by big mouth chew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WTS SMR MANY AVAIL

Lol, this is why I love Chewie.

And yes Hippo, (actually I was in range both times) but, yes, the grind from 52-60 is super brutal here. TBH the exp scaling should be reversed --- slow at 1-50 and 500x at 59. Because that's the levels everyone needs it... and those are the levels that mean the least in terms of end game pvp and only matter for killing dragons and gods. I'm not saying pvp from 50-60 is dumb. I'm saying that those levels make less of a difference vs gear giving out +10 stats. Or high dps weapons. In groups everyone can run with chloro etc...

TBH people don't learn to play conservatively here to. They use up all their mana and hp fighting mobs just for 2% faster leveling overall. So those wipes can be avoided if people pulled more carefully and thoughtfully, saught out and engaged pvp to ensure they wouldn't be jumped before pulling mobs etc... or at least get visual site of other players instead of ignoring that they are on who.

Pro's stop what they are doing when they see people in zone, and someone in group scouts it out, they decide if they want to attack or play nice, before waiting to get engaged.

Fast/slow EXP can't change stupid.

[Tongpow]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

slow at 1-50 and 500x at 59.

you can't be serious dude

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Tongpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can't be serious dude

Yep brutally fuckin serious. I started raiding GoD content on a 55 clr on live.

The 5 levels helped a lot, but it wasn't a big deal because my 2-4 CH's and single group heal before AoE splat is what enabled the guild to progress. Did the tanks and most melee dps need 60 and proper gear progression to be useful, yes, but not really so for the rest of the classes. Trak doesn't require 60's to kill.

Fuckin levels are stupid in the high end and they wreck the journey in the low end. It's part of mudflation and why the game got stale, fell flat on it's face when the level cap got upped every other expansion. Every expac the level cap was upped it sucked hardcore life out of the game.

To further simplify things for you - the normal grind form 1-50 was the sweet spot and things moved along at just the right rate. After that, and the long grind to 60 is bad. As it is exponentially longer. Unless people bard kite or power level it. Killing that sweet 1-50 experience to make 50-60 a tiny bit faster is bad. Just make 50-60 fast or fucking irrelevant.

[dreama1]

I wish people would stop assuming how other people want to play the game. Just because you play(ed) a certain way doesn't mean everyone else wants to..

Personally, I could care less about leveling or raiding, I just want to pvp. If i cared about the other stuff there are other servers for that.