How much native american influence you think america had as a democracy and culture?

[Taxi]

Originally Posted by PhelanKA [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess what I meant to say is: You're an idiot. Shut the fuck up. You don't know shit about Native Americans. Sitting around talking to resolve disputes? Yeah, the European colonists did the same thing. It's called "Diplomacy", dipshit. And I find it hilarious that you think the Iriqois and Aztec were some sort of progressive cultures. Get a clue. They sacrificed babies to the fucking sun.

I didnt say they were perfect. Does Europe burning a hundred thousand women during the 2 centuries the witch craze lasted mean that Bartolomé de las Casas (chronicler of human rights abuses by spanish conquistadors) never existed?

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt say they were perfect. Does Europe burning a hundred thousand women during the 2 centuries the witch craze lasted mean that Bartolomé de las Casas (chronicler of human rights abuses by spanish conquistadors) never existed?

We all fall short the glory of God...

Seriously though, that is the point. No civilization or country or person will ever meet your criteria. So why give a fuck? Get yours and get out, man. Trying to fix the world will just make you hate it all the more. Individual freedom is ubiquitous (see also: anarchy). It's just riskier in some regions than others [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[PhelanKA]

On a lighter note: If it weren't for the Native Americans we wouldn't have tacos, spaghetti sauce, or the Irish Potato Famine. Fuckin Irish.

And one thing you and I could probably agree on, Taxi is that the US handling of Native Americans was probably the worst and most calculated case of genocide in modern history before WWII. There was absolutely no reason for how they were treated and they deserve much better than what they received. It is a horrible black mark upon the history of the US that still has deep and lasting impact to this day. Just visit a reservation and you'll know what I mean. My aunt works at Fort Apachi as a nurse (My father's side of the family is Miami tribe). The conditions are appalling. 30% unemployment, rampant alcoholism, 1/10 teengers committing suicide, and their unemployment/welfare benefits are substandard to say the least in comparison to the national unemployment/welfare system. It's inexcusable.