Please stop hurting the population

[Lightatom]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SZ had legal trains, which I think was the main reason for including a very small bonus.

And since most of the population here is 50+, why do we feel as though we need a bonus at this range? There are groups to be found 50+ no matter what class you are or what guild you're in. The entire point of the bonus is to assist those players struggling because of the low population.

Uhhh, Idk how longs its been since you've played but I've been in the low lvl 50's for weeks LFG, possibly over a month now and have only found like 3 groups. It's just log in and log right back off everytime unless the guild is raiding.

[AmukTZ]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus these people against exp bonuses are a smart bunch.

There is 3 people posting against exp bonus.. wait 4. Azuure, Chewie, Bamzal, and Faerie. Guess whats common among them all? All got to their current level with exp bonuses.

[AmukTZ]

Originally Posted by mrproudbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It should be pretty telling that the flaming and rhetoric over the topic of the XP nerf is WAY LOWER than your average thread on the red forums. Players across the guild spectrum are speaking up and saying the same thing. This is a bad move, giving reasons why it's a bad move, asking for some thoughts/reasoning behind the change. Meanwhile, staff locking threads with no feedback and telling us the change is non-negotiable. "Trust us" says Deru, who just 2 days ago was getting called out for trolling/being unprofessional/whatever. You can't reasonably expect trust to flow from the players when you stoop to the level of the community and join in the trolling fray. "Working on it" says Sirken, regarding tweaks to compensate for the XP nerfs in some way. No concrete plans just lots of maybes. Patches fall between 6 weeks and 3 months on the server, pretty easy to look at the history of "patch notes" threads to see this trend. There is no remedy coming in the short term guys. Don't hold your breath for it.

Hope this doesn't get me banned, hard to know what's "too critical" now.

best post.

[Twainz]

Originally Posted by AmukTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is 3 people posting against exp bonus.. wait 4. Azuure, Chewie, Bamzal, and Faerie. Guess whats common among them all? All got to their current level with exp bonuses.

2 of them only inhabit guk and the other 2 don't even play, unless Red Dawn is doing sky belts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Galacticus]

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[VincentVolaju]

Originally Posted by Azure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The scaling bonus from 1-50 is still in effect. We don't know what it is and how it scales though beyond previous explanations lost to the forum entropy here.

Yes we do, it starts at 100% now at level one, instead of 400% like before. Losing some % per level, scaling down to no bonus at level 50. Its basically 3x slower to level 1-50 then it used to be, then it becomes blue-like from 50-60.

Its pretty brutal dude, especially when theres only 70 people online and the majority of those 70 people are level 50+, and the ones who arent 50+ are mostly solo classes, maybe 1 cleric or enchanter here or there. Grouping still isnt really an option for the 1-40 ish crowd unless youre in a guild like Red Dawn who try to help out / group members up. Though even then, when you finally do get a group, maybe... its 3x slower then it used to be =/.

Honestly Id be fine with a small XP bonus from 50-60, assuming there was still a fat xp bonus from 1-50. At least if you can get to 50 in reasonable amount of time then you can still be useful to your guild / friends etc. You can still go on raids at 50, you are still in a pretty decent +/- PvP range, most classes have the majority of their main spells / abilities aside from a couple upgrades etc. I can understand slow progression from 50-60, but I cant understand slow progression from 1-50, given the current population and class balance of the server. There just isnt enough "group" classes out there, because there isnt enough people playing them, because most people play solo classes because thats the only way they can be sure that when they get on, they can start leveling and not have to sit in OOC looking for a group, that most likely doesnt exist until you get to 40+.

I feel like all this patch really did was hurt the new players who were coming to the server, and discouraged the the higher level players from making alts to help level with the new players, especially when there is no group bonus added with this xp nerf. It unmotivated a lot of those new people who were playing those solo classes, because now they dont have much to look forward to. They now know that they are leveling much much slower then they were last week, having to invest 3x as much time solo leveling, which was already boring enough with the exp bonus but had to do it because not enough players online to form full groups together in all diff level brackets.

My suggestion would be add a FAT group bonus per group member added to the party to give a big incentive to making group classes, something like 50-100% bonus per group member. I think that would encourage some of those people who are forced into playing solo classes in order to level, to reroll some of the group classes they would probably rather play. It would also motivated level 60s to roll some alts up and make full leveling partys with there newly joined guild mates, giving them groups as well. The solo class players are still able to solo level whenever they please and have the advantage of logging in and being able to level right away, even if it is a little slower then grouping would be, but that imo is the give and take of solo vs group.

I dunno Ive only been on red for 2-3 weeks now so I am sure my opinion doesnt matter very much but just my 2 cents.

[Infectious]

Faerie post who you are ingame. Before you were laughed away.. Before faerie.. Yes that secrets person your hiding. You played here for a short time over a year ago. This server just becomes more and more bullshit everyday and unless you play, you wouldnt understand so it here it is. Pop is at 80, they give us an exp bonus. Pop goes to 180. They remove exp bonus for the health of the server, pop goes down.

This has happened twice already. But its for the health of the server? Yes the health of the server that is gona be merged to teams.... The health of the server that has people banned for mq/boxing and allowed to reroll. THE HEALTH OF THE.... Fuck outta here lets just stop the jokes and have a real gm like rogean/nilbog explain this shit. All we get is deru who can lock threads and come not chime in any info .

[Bazia]

I think Nirgon made the point that exp was reduced so bans hurt more and therefore are a better deterrent to exploiting/cheating.

Only logical explanation.

So yeah I'm just gonna go ahead and say thanks shitbirds.

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[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faerie post who you are ingame. Before you were laughed away.. Before faerie.. Yes that secrets person your hiding.

Nellodee <Spear of the Nation>

[Kazi]

Red 99. Dissent will be crushed. Fawning crap like this stays open to all.