a something that is retarded:

[Wonton]

Oohhhhh. Thanks for clearing that up, Otto!

[President]

Ok.. let me break it down for you guys who aren't understanding Goobles.

1. The competition statement is simply saying that Karsten wants competition, which is basically all this post is about.

2. His second post, in reference to them killing it whenever-the-fuck-they-want and again referencing competition, is basically a repeat of #1.

3. His statement about you diverting the spotlight onto someone who doesn't give two shits about the matter is, I believe, in reference to your responses to his original post. Goobles is in neither guild and therefore doesn't give two shits about the matter.

[Goobles]

Grade sheet for Reading Comprehension
President : A+
Otto : B+
Everyone else : Refresher course.

[Kuldiin]

If only it was possible to leave the server and go play elsewhere.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Kuldiin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only it was possible to leave the server and go play elsewhere.

Yes, P1999 would be a much happier place if the whiners left and went to an actual raiding server. There they could have all the "competition" they wanted. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[theory]

Originally Posted by Goobles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In case there's any confusion, let's revert to a statement made by Karsten himself.

"COMPETITION"

I found more LARGE text, tex.

[theory]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, P1999 would be a much happier place if the whiners left and went to an actual raiding server. There they could have all the "competition" they wanted. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nah i think "competition is very important to be honest, its what drives us hard core players.
And some things are done just unfairly to make people who dont want to put in the effort happy, and it makes them have gear as good as those who put more effort into the game and the people who put more in should be rewarded as such, and those who dont shouldnt be rewarded unless they can, its what makes the gap between casual, and hardcore players, and that is a much needed gap.

[drplump]

This brings up another interesting question. To get on the rotation you must have a force that can take the mob. IF in a 24 hour period a guild fails to kill said mob shouldn't they be taken off rotation? This is quite a generous amount of time to kill the mob a guild could easily put 10 attempts in!

[Goobles]

drplump: To get on the rotation, I would assume that the guild would have to first demonstrate their capability to handle said mob(s). If they fail to take their turn, I believe they will have forfeited their turn to the next guild in line. I would like to make a motion that if you forfeit twice in a row, you are taken off the rotation. Same goes for multi-guild raids to make up for lacking numbers.

theory:Scoring brown-eye points with the obvious-assimilators, are we?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by theory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nah i think "competition is very important to be honest, its what drives us hard core players.
And some things are done just unfairly to make people who dont want to put in the effort happy, and it makes them have gear as good as those who put more effort into the game and the people who put more in should be rewarded as such, and those who dont shouldnt be rewarded unless they can, its what makes the gap between casual, and hardcore players, and that is a much needed gap.

Don't get me wrong, I understand what your saying and agree to a certain extent. What I'm saying is that if someone doesn't THINK there is ENOUGH competition on this server, those people should move on.

Unless they are complaining about having too much competition, which I don't beieve is the case here.