aaaaand.. we're all dead

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

http://environmentalthinker.blogspot...urces-how.html

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ces-population

/tinfoil hat on?

Irrelevant. There are more than enough natural resources, including water, for a lot more people than 7 billion. Compare 7 billion people to the landmass that is livable on earth and there would be more than ample resources for many times the population of today. The problem is greed and mismanagement of resources. Not lack of them.

[Bazia]

Considering there are places like most Canadian provinces and enormous stretches of the United States with less than a single person per mile population density I'm going to vote on the side of no overpopulation.

I'm only using those examples because these are areas I'm familiar with being from North America.

[Elendae]

I hope they wipe every damn mosquito off the face of the earth. No one likes them. Even ecologists and mosquito experts agree that killing them off would barely affect the ecosystem and would probably save 50-100 million people a year.

[Whirled]

True; but certain populations explode while other places do not for certain reasons.

Population of Alaska isn't even a million people (very large state) but yet New Jersey has more than several million in a tiny little state. Not many people running off to live in Swahili (or insert another desolate or barely livable area) these days due to the things one can get in much more civilized areas.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Irrelevant. There are more than enough natural resources, including water, for a lot more people than 7 billion. Compare 7 billion people to the landmass that is livable on earth and there would be more than ample resources for many times the population of today. The problem is greed and mismanagement of resources. Not lack of them.

Humankind likes to condense into major cities. These cities cannot support themselves using the resources available. They have to pull resources from surrounding areas. Look at NYC and all of the fresh water that is pulled from many upstate reservoirs. Therefore pulling it from those areas and affecting their water tables. I know, because I live there.

We are still losing massive amounts of forestland all over the world at an alarming rate.
Humans end up becoming locusts for the areas they cohabitate in. If you can find evidence that all of this is another 'sky is falling' situation, by all means link some peer reviewed papers or studies.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Elendae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope they wipe every damn mosquito off the face of the earth. No one likes them. Even ecologists and mosquito experts agree that killing them off would barely affect the ecosystem and would probably save 50-100 million people a year.

mosquitos weren't a problem until humans began clear cutting and burning forest for crop land thousands of years ago. sickle cell adaptation developed to fight malaria.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humankind likes to condense into major cities. These cities cannot support themselves using the resources available. They have to pull resources from surrounding areas. Look at NYC and all of the fresh water that is pulled from many upstate reservoirs. Therefore pulling it from those areas and affecting their water tables. I know, because I live there.

We are still losing massive amounts of forestland all over the world at an alarming rate.
Humans end up becoming locusts for the areas they cohabitate in. If you can find evidence that all of this is another 'sky is falling' situation, by all means link some peer reviewed papers or studies.

Cities are the biggest problem. Takes way too many resources to support people living in substandard conditions. Spread people out, let them grow their own food and tend their own land. But, then government dependence would decline, and the power mongers would have no.where near as much to control. So that won't happen.

[BigHurb]

they're fucking with a level of the ecosystem, voluntarily... for a voluntary event.. where was the concern for their actual population sans olympics... stupid ideas for stupid reasons = humans

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cities are the biggest problem. Takes way too many resources to support people living in substandard conditions. Spread people out, let them grow their own food and tend their own land. But, then government dependence would decline, and the power mongers would have no.where near as much to control. So that won't happen.

cultural shift of the post industrial revolution killed that idea, so now cities are coming up with ways of integrating the rural into the urban instead of spreading out the city. there's been a huge push in houston to clean up and add more parks, and to get people involved in community gardens.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cultural shift of the post industrial revolution killed that idea, so now cities are coming up with ways of integrating the rural into the urban instead of spreading out the city. there's been a huge push in houston to clean up and add more parks, and to get people involved in community gardens.

That's great. But all resources still have to be shipped in from other areas. So its not anything near a self sustaining system.