Workaround for 50% XP Penalty on Pet Damage?

[Swish]

Yes, group with 1-5 others and the pet can do 100% of the damage for no penalty (often popular with a cleric/enchanter/charmed pet combo) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Somekid123]

Not sure how it would work being separate in the same zones. There was a bug that was abused for quite sometime where you grouped with someone but in different zones and it disregarded the 51% rule but it definitely doesn't work now.

Test it let us know! ;D

[Lokked]

I tested by creating a new Iksar Necro.

All kills were done against the same Level 1 mob type (Scaled Wolf Pup). All kills were done at Level 1.

When I say with group, I mean grouped, but outside their XP leeching range.

Without Pet. No Group: 6%
Without Pet. With Group (Level 20): 6%
Without Pet. With Group (Level 1): 6%

With Pet. No Group. Pet Does 0% Damage: 6%
With Pet. No Group. Pet Does less than 50% damage: 6%
With Pet. No Group. Pet Does 53% damage (10/19): 3%
With Pet. No Group. Pet does 100% Damage: 3%

With Pet. With Group (L1). Pet does 58% damage: 3%
With Pet. With Group (L1). Pet does 100% damage: 3%

In this next section, I tried to work out how much XP it takes to go from 1-2 and how much XP each kill is worth, but I couldn't get the calculation to give me a number that makes sense (unless Experience can be a floating point number, even then something is wrong):

From the Wiki:
The experience required to obtain a given level = L^3 * C * R * H
2^3 * 1.10 * 1.20 * 1.0 = 10.56
To an L1 char, an L1 mob is worth L^2 * ZEM
1^2 * 0.75 = 0.75

To get to 100% with 6-7% gains per kill, it would require 16 kills. 10.56 / .75xp/L1 = ~13 Kills, so there is something about the equation that I don't understand. It's possible the ZEM of Field of Bone is actually 0.66

Either way, it seems like we cannot get around having to either out-damage our pet or just eat the penalty. Was worth a shot.

Happy Hunting!

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Lokked [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tested by creating a new Iksar Necro.

All kills were done against the same Level 1 mob type (Scaled Wolf Pup). All kills were done at Level 1.

When I say with group, I mean grouped, but outside their XP leeching range.

Without Pet. No Group: 6%
Without Pet. With Group (Level 20): 6%
Without Pet. With Group (Level 1): 6%

With Pet. No Group. Pet Does 0% Damage: 6%
With Pet. No Group. Pet Does less than 50% damage: 6%
With Pet. No Group. Pet Does 53% damage (10/19): 3%
With Pet. No Group. Pet does 100% Damage: 3%

With Pet. With Group (L1). Pet does 58% damage: 3%
With Pet. With Group (L1). Pet does 100% damage: 3%

In this next section, I tried to work out how much XP it takes to go from 1-2 and how much XP each kill is worth, but I couldn't get the calculation to give me a number that makes sense (unless Experience can be a floating point number, even then something is wrong):

From the Wiki:
The experience required to obtain a given level = L^3 * C * R * H
2^3 * 1.10 * 1.20 * 1.0 = 10.56
To an L1 char, an L1 mob is worth L^2 * ZEM
1^2 * 0.75 = 0.75

To get to 100% with 6-7% gains per kill, it would require 16 kills. 10.56 / .75xp/L1 = ~13 Kills, so there is something about the equation that I don't understand. It's possible the ZEM of Field of Bone is actually 0.66

Either way, it seems like we cannot get around having to either out-damage our pet or just eat the penalty. Was worth a shot.

Happy Hunting!

now what if you tried with Pet grouped with someone out of xp range and % dmg done by pet and % xp you get?

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Lokked [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without Pet. No Group: 6%
Without Pet. With Group (Level 20): 6%
Without Pet. With Group (Level 1): 6%

With Pet. No Group. Pet Does 0% Damage: 6%
With Pet. No Group. Pet Does less than 50% damage: 6%
With Pet. No Group. Pet Does 53% damage (10/19): 3%
With Pet. No Group. Pet does 100% Damage: 3%

With Pet. With Group (L1). Pet does 58% damage: 3%
With Pet. With Group (L1). Pet does 100% damage: 3%

Fantastic. Solid test. I agree with the previous post, would be useful, just for absolute certainty, to attempt pet doing less than 50% damage on the With Pet, With Group, out of range scenario.

[Exmo]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fantastic. Solid test. I agree with the previous post, would be useful, just for absolute certainty, to attempt pet doing less than 50% damage on the With Pet, With Group, out of range scenario.

Or out of zone.