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[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was addressing the person that claimed scientists have found "millions of earth like planets"

It's simply false.

I'm sure googling the same info you googled to find your one post, the number of been exaggerated, may of not, but still doesn't change the point. Guess a true Aethist you are though, trying to grasp at straws for any argument you can, so you pick out the one thing that you still don't have credible proof of. I applaud you though and give you a 9/10 for effort.

[Abbot]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But wouldn't that throw everything out of balance? Shouldn't we be seeing some physical effects of the enormous amounts of gravity that would be involved in that. Shouldn't our solar rotation be affected by such a thing?

In short, we're too small to notice.

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure googling the same info you googled to find your one post, the number of been exaggerated, may of not, but still doesn't change the point. Guess a true Aethist you are though, trying to grasp at straws for any argument you can, so you pick out the one thing that you still don't have credible proof of. I applaud you though and give you a 9/10 for effort.

Are you trying to imply that atheists and skeptics think aliens don't exist?

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by DeruIsLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trying to imply that atheists and skeptics think aliens don't exist?

No the implication was at the absurdity to assume those can exist yet a God couldn't. No matter what theory or ideas an Aethist can come up with, it can be tied to the possibility of a God existing unless they legitimately think we are the only existence possible. In that case there is no hope at all for them.

Yet me make sure this is clear also. I'm not saying that it is the God that me and the majority of the planet believe in, but the possibility of a God is there, is it the one we believe it? Maybe, maybe not, I believe it is, but doesn't change the fact that logic still points in the direction of the possibility of there being one.

[DeruIsLove]

The main point is the differentiation between "a god" and the Christian Yahweh. Even Dawkins and Hitchens both admitted to the possibility of higher forms of life/intelligence in several debates.

One of the issues I have is that the powers that be tend to lump everyone in the "non-religious" category into the atheist category. Myself being an agnostic anti-theist, I have a problem with that.

That said, I do see where you are coming from.

[Shamalam]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No the implication was at the absurdity to assume those can exist yet a God couldn't. No matter what theory or ideas an Aethist can come up with, it can be tied to the possibility of a God existing unless they legitimately think we are the only existence possible. In that case there is no hope at all for them.

Yet me make sure this is clear also. I'm not saying that it is the God that me and the majority of the planet believe in, but the possibility of a God is there, is it the one we believe it? Maybe, maybe not, I believe it is, but doesn't change the fact that logic still points in the direction of the possibility of there being one.

I don't think you quite understand the concept of "logic."

By your thought process, don't we also have to disprove the existence of leprechauns and unicorns? I mean, we haven't seen them, we have no evidence whatsoever that they exist, but can we REALLY rule out the possibility that they might be out there somewhere? Maybe they're just on a different planet!

You're also completely wrong if you think the number of christians on this planet is anywhere close to a "majority," but whatever helps you sleep at night.

[Obrae]

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[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you quite understand the concept of "logic."

By your thought process, don't we also have to disprove the existence of leprechauns and unicorns? I mean, we haven't seen them, we have no evidence whatsoever that they exist, but can we REALLY rule out the possibility that they might be out there somewhere? Maybe they're just on a different planet!

You're also completely wrong if you think the number of christians on this planet is anywhere close to a "majority," but whatever helps you sleep at night.

Leprechauns and unicorns exist in the same manner that evolution exists then. No one has ever seen that either.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think you quite understand the concept of "logic."

By your thought process, don't we also have to disprove the existence of leprechauns and unicorns? I mean, we haven't seen them, we have no evidence whatsoever that they exist, but can we REALLY rule out the possibility that they might be out there somewhere? Maybe they're just on a different planet!

You're also completely wrong if you think the number of christians on this planet is anywhere close to a "majority," but whatever helps you sleep at night.

Hate to break it to you, but the belief in Christ in the majority, and it does help me sleep at night. Thank you.

And no, I'm not presenting anything that has to be disproved, read my original post in this thread and you will see what I'm saying, I'm not saying "GOD EXISTS BELIEVE ME"m even though he does, I was merely pointing out an instance that is common among most atheists (I say most, because every single one I've run across base a lot of their thought process off science, but I'm assuming not all), and the absurdity behind it.

Thank you though for providing your 2cents and showing your arrogance/ignorance by ending with a comment that basically shows your knowledge being the superior knowledge. I'm actually pretty fascinated with people believes, whether it is not with what I believe or it is what I believe. I like to see how people think and their though process, and enjoy this convo quiet bit. The least you could do is post some constructive response rather acting you won some kind of argument that doesn't exist by tell me you hope I sleep better at night.

[Obrae]

Why do you guys waste time arguing with people that are still reasoning like stone age humans ?