Freedom From Atheism Foundation - Page 33

Ahldagor · #**321** 05-22-2014, 02:47 PM

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The gif you posted earlier?

nah. i've been in this scenario before, so i'm pretty much damned. though i have to say it isn't the good and evil demarcation that most people think, but that angels are demons and demons are angels.

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Ahldagor · #**322** 05-22-2014, 02:50 PM

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It's basically like saying its impossible to prove micro organisms exist just because you don't have a microscope.

even the ancient greeks theorized atoms without the benefit of the tools we have today

r00t · #**323** 05-22-2014, 02:52 PM

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even the ancient greeks theorized atoms without the benefit of the tools we have today

just like we theorize God?

Ahldagor · #**324** 05-22-2014, 02:53 PM

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just like we theorize God?

not sure. haven't explored the thought process that they used.

DeruIsLove · #**325** 05-22-2014, 02:57 PM

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It's basically like saying its impossible to prove micro organisms exist just because you don't have a microscope.

What "proof" are you talking about? You're contradicting yourself here.

On one hand you are ignoring/denying the literal mountains of evidence in support of the evolutionary process and on the other you are making the assumption that non-theists want "proof" of the Christian God when there isn't even a shred of evidence to begin with.

Glenzig · #**326** 05-22-2014, 03:03 PM

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What "proof" are you talking about? You're contradicting yourself here.

On one hand you are ignoring/denying the literal mountains of evidence in support of the evolutionary process and on the other you are making the assumption that non-theists want "proof" of the Christian God when there isn't even a shred of evidence to begin with.

You keep saying "literal mountains of evidence". If its not too much to ask, can you show us something from these mountains that is undeniable proof for the theory of evolution? Something that can't be refuted. Something that is concrete. Factual. If you can I would actually be very interested in reading it.

r00t · #**327** 05-22-2014, 03:04 PM

I will excuse that the mountains of evidence for evolution are wholly underwhelming and unconvincing if you actually look into it.

What I am saying is that while I agree it is currently impossible to prove God (actually I'm not saying that, proof of creation and thus a creator is all around us), it certainly is not scientifically impossible.

r00t · #**328** 05-22-2014, 03:06 PM

It's been said before but the point is just so strong. A million monkeys on typewriters (in a word: randomness) would never bang out the source code for EverQuest. What makes you think something a trillion times more complex (the universe) could occur by randomness, for no reason?

DeruIsLove · #**329** 05-22-2014, 03:22 PM

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It's been said before but the point is just so strong. A million monkeys on typewriters (in a word: randomness) would never bang out the source code for EverQuest. What makes you think something a trillion times more complex (the universe) could occur by randomness, for no reason?

What's random? The laws of physics are anything but. You're grasping for straws here.

I'm not even going to respond directly to your regurgitated "the evidence of a creator is all around us" garbage as it's no stronger than the evidence of god people who hear voices in their head have.

r00t · #**330** 05-22-2014, 03:26 PM

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What's random? The laws of physics are anything but. You're grasping for straws here.

I'm not even going to respond directly to your regurgitated "the evidence of a creator is all around us" garbage as it's no stronger than the evidence of god people who hear voices in their head have.

Yes, that's exactly right. They're not random, implying they were consciously derived.