Didn't Derubael and other GM's agree something was needed for end game?

[HippoNipple]

Hivemind definitely sounds bitter for some reason. HB put in as much time and effort as anyone could ask. You seem more hateful and upset that he failed than he is and you invested nothing into the matter.

HB had a lot of forces working against him when building a guild from scratch and his experience leading that guild relates to a lot of topics on these forums. That is why you see it brought up so much. No one is taking the RD collapse personal and projecting, they are just stating their opinions.

[Gaanon]

If it were an Azrael thing, and not a fundamental server flaw, there would be other people who have had success.

[NotKringe]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A person with valid points and evidence to back it up doesn't need to resort to real life insults. You're nothing but an empty mouthpiece for a failed guild.

Like HB or not, agree with him or not, consider him a good leader or not, he is one of only 3 human beings on this box who has lead a guild to any measure of success in the last 2 years.

Hate to disagree but that is false and your facts are incorrect.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by NotKringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hate to disagree but that is false and your facts are incorrect.

I'll shorten the time frame to the last year than, as that is what I've personally observed. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Quiet]

Give Heartbrand 50 Azrael members and his Red Dawn strategy = Kings of the box.

[Gaffin 7.0]

18 pages in 4 hrs nice

[NotKringe]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll shorten the time frame to the last year than, as that is what I've personally observed. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Speaking of which where is that 45 day server reset? I have yet to see a post about this in the last year!! Server is unstable and needs this asap!

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

18 pages in 4 hrs nice

Thanks for counting and adding value to the discussion.

[Kergan]

Hard to know what would have happened. Azrael couldn't take down Nihilum in 50v50 combat no real reason to think RD would have either. I think they would have enjoyed the game while still losing though, and would have made progress instead of curling up in the fetal position immediately.

I am 100% in favor of a multiple guild box. I was very supportive of laying off RD, rezzing them back after PVP wipes, etc. I wanted them badly to succeed, but in the end it wasn't in the cards. Azrael on the other hand is bad for the server and anything that crushes them into oblivion so the box can be reborn pure is good in my eyes.

[Mac Drettj]

No wonder server so buggy