Paying well

[Nirgon]

How about the abundance of self hating dirt bags here that take their retard rage out on newbies to make themselves feel good? Or constantly ask for time wasting non-classic changes (that could never please everyone)? Or are so afraid of their RMT scheme being threatened, they kill content for YEARS just to deny others (even those that would become potential geared recruits... as is usually the case). Or can't handle this game without nearly instant lvl 60 / boxing? That's a good one too because all your crying for instant xp has really done is help dedicated players (scumbags sure but any of you would take the same opportunity if you had the means to scum it up as proven -- VMware boxing etc) like Ender and Nizzar get right back on top after being banned.

Enough of the players here make this a shit hole and both sides shit talk the staff any time they get involved with pretty much anything.

It's up to you to shape up or live with what you have.

The only thing funnier to me than you guys wondering why repops/fixes are almost out of the question here is the few of you who have tried.... and failed miserably to get into blue raiding guilds. I always get a snicker out of that. I think those of you that would actually make it are already exiled from there for RMTing... cheating... you know all the things they also do here. Oh what was I saying about the player base here again? Maybe something about why Rogean does repops on blue but not here (when he could easily repop both servers at the same time)?

Nah, nvm.... inb4 you're terrible at EverQuest, you make shit up in the bugs forum, the usual etc.

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Then again seeing you guys wondering why people won't join your guild because you don't help new members get gear or xp is pretty hilarious too.


Turned HB against Lite? Who took on more new members from the ground up basically while Heartbrand was leading Red Dawn? HB or Lite? And who helped these new members level and gear up while rewarding veterans for doing so? And what guild did most of them go to? HEH. Get a brian u moranz.

[Not_Kazowi]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No I did that because I think the Holo guys were flakes, and felt the guys gave up far too easily on the guild.

It was fun watching you rage and quit for personal reasons, except I wasn't on your side this time.

That group of Holo guys had me going good by their ego's, much like Rexx, most of it was empty promises though.

Ancient history, has nothing to do with why this box is the way it is. If Holo won, we'd be in the same shoes as Nihi, just like if Nizzar stayed away and Azrael took control - more boring stagnant 1 guild Red99 bullshit.

I don't think the fellas would ever guild again, mostly because they're just warm irrelevant bodies in the Nihi zerg - I am so good with that.

I honestly don't think anyone cares as much as you man. May want your reevaluate what you're funneling your efforts and emotions into and focus on something more productive.

[Nirgon]

Trust me on all the above I'm saying.

Pretty sure Rogean would just come here and tell you himself but all you'd do is blame him more for yourselves.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by Not_Kazowi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I honestly don't think anyone cares as much as you man. May want your reevaluate what you're funneling your efforts and emotions into and focus on something more productive.

Yes the guys clearing out static raid targets for the 1000th time don't care nearly as much as a guy who thinks critically on our server design and posts for about an hour each day if that.

This game design is broken, I hope to some day take my ideas into my own game using Unity 3d, if the learning curve doesn't kill me.

Sucks, this box has the audience built in, and the GM's can't get their shit together.

Deru was probably the best we had in awhile, and what was his big plans - release simulated repops, when the population is bursting and 3 guilds cut off the exp bonus 100%. Then when the pop dies to 50 or so on he releases a new experience bonus, and removes the simulated repops. Is this kid retarded or is it really just Rog.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trust me on all the above I'm saying.

Pretty sure Rogean would just come here and tell you himself but all you'd do is blame him more for yourselves.

Couldn't read your whole post, it's all blah blah blah putting blame in the wrong directions IMO.

Like griefing lowbies, shit doesn't happen - it's insignificant, I've spent lots of time in lowbie zones the past week most of the time people are being PL'd and it's friendly.

More nonsense.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Turned HB against Lite? Who took on more new members from the ground up basically while Heartbrand was leading Red Dawn? HB or Lite? And who helped these new members level and gear up while rewarding veterans for doing so? And what guild did most of them go to? HEH. Get a brian u moranz.

I am saying he tried to, he didn't need to do anything.

The griefing of RD saying they had to remove all Az members, and Nizz giving certain mobs to RD were his tactics. He wanted RD to go towards Nihi's side, which they did.

Ultimately Lite self destructed it himself (for good reasons).

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's being disingenuous about the fact that Nizzar just played Lite vs HB which worked perfectly.

LOL

Here's how things went down. Azrael was basically in shambles when I left Nihilum being nothing more at the time than a Drusella / Crypt farming guild. Lite offered to let me into the guild but I declined because I didn't think the philosophy of the guild would allow it to truly grow long term, despite liking a few of the individuals in the guild. I made Red Dawn, recruited as many people as I could during the EQ Mac phase, set weekly raids etc. This is when Lite approached about coming to raids etc., which I was initially hesitant about given he hijacked Red Dawn 1.0 and all of my work, and the Force saga etc.

We had the Trakanon fiasco, where Lite "invited' Red Dawn to Trakanon but loot would be done by him, which I saw as a good opportunity to get some pixel love from the Duke as it became clear at that time that working with Lite would be same old same old.

One day, I was out at work late, and apparently there was PVP over Nagafen and Lite had some RD with him, and ultimately we ended up winning the fight against Nihilum. We essentially became allied at that time, despite many RD members not wanting to do so, and I created the joint DKP system etc. This immediately resulted in tears from people like Ragingclues who thought it was unfair that DKP would be given out for weekly planar clears, sky clears, etc., because he didn't need those types of things. Bamzal and others spoke out similarly. We tried to do Sky together and ran into this loot drama when our SK Grimzal won a roll for a Sky belt over Bamzal.

I tried my best to hold everything together but many people in Azrael were interested only in attending raids that would benefit them. You had Chipp coming to raids for his alts to get loot then logging on pvp toons to kill Red Dawn members a hour later. Same with Sickpuppy crew. It was pretty dumb. My members were sick of it, so I let it be known the only way the arrangement could work was as a merge, which Lite agreed to with no qualms nor a single comment to me against it.

We became, supposedly, one guild, Red Dawn, united around the message. Most Azrael people never showed up to anything, never helped, and never contributed, with the exception of a few which I won't name for fear of leaving out someone who was truly helpful.

Unfortunately, repops were @ 5am est, people who took the tag from AZ continued to do shit like PVP RD members on their alts, and Azrael core members just never logged on to help for planar clears, to defend exp groups despite claiming to love PVP, etc. When we did 5am faydedar's it was literally only RD members.

Despite this, and despite many RD members being a bit frustrated, I tried to hold things together. Finally, the GM's threw us a bone, with simulated repops. I logged on excited to see the entire Azrael guild had disbanded from RD, with no tells or messages from Lite before hand, and that they were going to go it on their own now, but we were welcome to raid together. I viewed this as completely untenable. What good is a DKP system if you're separate guilds, with separate raids, who can't agree on what's a raid and what's not, with separate teamspeaks and bind points, etc? I suggested we merge under perhaps a new tag then, be co-leaders, choose officers. This was rejected. I then offered to Powered & Deluxee that Lite actually be the leader and I would handle administrative things. This was rejected. I offered potentially merging under the Azrael tag. This was rejected because certain members <cough> Salem <cough> didn't want to "zerg". Every single suggestion as rejected, and Lite wouldn't even discuss it himself, it had to be through intermediaries.

Because of this, when Nizzar on his own accord offered us free mobs a day later on the sole condition to not raid with Azrael, it was pretty much a no brainer. Free loot from Nihilum, or continue to get strung along by Azrael.

In summary, your narrative is bullshit. Thanks.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't read your whole post, it's all blah blah blah putting blame in the wrong directions IMO.

Like griefing lowbies, shit doesn't happen - it's insignificant, I've spent lots of time in lowbie zones the past week most of the time people are being PL'd and it's friendly.

More nonsense.

Nirgons post is actually pretty spot on. If you really didn't read it you should take a couple minutes to do so. In fact instead of making another post that pushes people in Nihilums direction you should definitely stop and read his post.

[Nirgon]

So Rogean gets on for a repop for blue and could basically do red at the same time and doesn't.

See if you can figure out why on your own... I already tried telling you.

I mean I'd call myself out on nonsense but staff reads my posts so u no.


ITT: Stasis gets held back a grade at ForumQuest Elementary.

[lite]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL

Here's how things went down. Azrael was basically in shambles when I left Nihilum being nothing more at the time than a Drusella / Crypt farming guild. Lite offered to let me into the guild but I declined because I didn't think the philosophy of the guild would allow it to truly grow long term, despite liking a few of the individuals in the guild. I made Red Dawn, recruited as many people as I could during the EQ Mac phase, set weekly raids etc. This is when Lite approached about coming to raids etc., which I was initially hesitant about given he hijacked Red Dawn 1.0 and all of my work, and the Force saga etc.

We had the Trakanon fiasco, where Lite "invited' Red Dawn to Trakanon but loot would be done by him, which I saw as a good opportunity to get some pixel love from the Duke as it became clear at that time that working with Lite would be same old same old.

One day, I was out at work late, and apparently there was PVP over Nagafen and Lite had some RD with him, and ultimately we ended up winning the fight against Nihilum. We essentially became allied at that time, despite many RD members not wanting to do so, and I created the joint DKP system etc. This immediately resulted in tears from people like Ragingclues who thought it was unfair that DKP would be given out for weekly planar clears, sky clears, etc., because he didn't need those types of things. Bamzal and others spoke out similarly. We tried to do Sky together and ran into this loot drama when our SK Grimzal won a roll for a Sky belt over Bamzal.

I tried my best to hold everything together but many people in Azrael were interested only in attending raids that would benefit them. You had Chipp coming to raids for his alts to get loot then logging on pvp toons to kill Red Dawn members a hour later. Same with Sickpuppy crew. It was pretty dumb. My members were sick of it, so I let it be known the only way the arrangement could work was as a merge, which Lite agreed to with no qualms nor a single comment to me against it.

We became, supposedly, one guild, Red Dawn, united around the message. Most Azrael people never showed up to anything, never helped, and never contributed, with the exception of a few which I won't name for fear of leaving out someone who was truly helpful.

Unfortunately, repops were @ 5am est, people who took the tag from AZ continued to do shit like PVP RD members on their alts, and Azrael core members just never logged on to help for planar clears, to defend exp groups despite claiming to love PVP, etc. When we did 5am faydedar's it was literally only RD members.

Despite this, and despite many RD members being a bit frustrated, I tried to hold things together. Finally, the GM's threw us a bone, with simulated repops. I logged on excited to see the entire Azrael guild had disbanded from RD, with no tells or messages from Lite before hand, and that they were going to go it on their own now, but we were welcome to raid together. I viewed this as completely untenable. What good is a DKP system if you're separate guilds, with separate raids, who can't agree on what's a raid and what's not, with separate teamspeaks and bind points, etc? I suggested we merge under perhaps a new tag then, be co-leaders, choose officers. This was rejected. I then offered to Powered & Deluxee that Lite actually be the leader and I would handle administrative things. This was rejected. I offered potentially merging under the Azrael tag. This was rejected because certain members <cough> Salem <cough> didn't want to "zerg". Every single suggestion as rejected, and Lite wouldn't even discuss it himself, it had to be through intermediaries.

Because of this, when Nizzar on his own accord offered us free mobs a day later on the sole condition to not raid with Azrael, it was pretty much a no brainer. Free loot from Nihilum, or continue to get strung along by Azrael.

In summary, your narrative is bullshit. Thanks.

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