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Old 06-21-2014, 12:19 AM
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Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.
this sentence is somehow astoundingly incorrect both factually and theoretically

if one religion had stopped mass murders and another had not, that would be a fantastic reason to view the still-mass-murdering religion as "more violent"

and the implication that christianity hasn't been responsible for mass murder in a few centuries is also wrong

also: abolishing religion def not the path to world peace, mass murder still highly popular with secular governments

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Old 06-21-2014, 12:25 AM
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All religions are equally guilty of committing violence against those who are dfferent.

Jews, Christians, Catholics, Muslims...shit I bet some Buddhists and Hindus have also commit violence at some point.

What do all religions have in common? They've all been created by men, their scripture written by men.



IF god is real, I doubt he is wasting his time talking or associating with any jesus christs or Muhammads or moses trying to get his word to the people. I also doubt that humanity could even comprehend god's existence or his will. Simply put, any religion on earth are most likely made up by the types of people who, today, would be locked in mental institutions.


You guys can all choose to believe what you want, that is your right as a person. I just really am suprised that so many people over thousands of years still believe in this nonsense.

I guess its just like when your parents tell you whats right and wrong when you're a child, and you still carry their opinions with you well into adulthood before you start thinking for yourself.
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Old 06-21-2014, 12:29 AM
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Lets not act like one religion is any more violent than another because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.

All religions are responsible for senseless violence. They're all equally created and corrupted by men.

Only path to world peace is to abolish ALL forms of religion around the world.
Well there will definitely come a point in the very near future when all religion will be essentially done away with. Unfortunately, this won't lead to world peace. Quite the opposite actually.
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Old 06-21-2014, 12:32 AM
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because the other ones stopped mass murders a few centuries ago.
I feel this is important
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Old 06-21-2014, 12:41 AM
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All religions are equally guilty of committing violence against those who are dfferent.

Jews, Christians, Catholics, Muslims...shit I bet some Buddhists and Hindus have also commit violence at some point.

What do all religions have in common? They've all been created by men, their scripture written by men.



IF god is real, I doubt he is wasting his time talking or associating with any jesus christs or Muhammads or moses trying to get his word to the people. I also doubt that humanity could even comprehend god's existence or his will. Simply put, any religion on earth are most likely made up by the types of people who, today, would be locked in mental institutions.


You guys can all choose to believe what you want, that is your right as a person. I just really am suprised that so many people over thousands of years still believe in this nonsense.

I guess its just like when your parents tell you whats right and wrong when you're a child, and you still carry their opinions with you well into adulthood before you start thinking for yourself.
The part in confused about is how you think that man has corrupted all forms of religion ,(which they have, not arguing on that) and yet somehow relying solely on science, which is mans observation of the world around him, would somehow be free from any form of the same type of corruption. If men made all religion, and men tell you what is and isn't true of science,aren't you in the same boat as any religious person? Youre still relying on men for your answers.
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Old 06-21-2014, 12:48 AM
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Jews and Muslims handle all the violence in the middle east. Christian extremists are at war in Africa, killing Muslims. Catholics and Protestants are still at war in Ireland. Hindus and Buddhists have issues in China with the Chinese politicians and armies.

Not one religion has blood not on their hands.
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:02 AM
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Jews and Muslims handle all the violence in the middle east. Christian extremists are at war in Africa, killing Muslims. Catholics and Protestants are still at war in Ireland. Hindus and Buddhists have issues in China with the Chinese politicians and armies.

Not one religion has blood not on their hands.
That's what I'm sayin! And its not like all of this killing is a new thing.

You guys ever heard of the crusades?

Anyway, government and religion go hand in hand.

each institution uses the other to keep people pacified


Man wasn't made to be subjugated or controlled by any god or government. We are animals that are currently not existing in our natural habitat.

We are essentially being held un captivity by all religions and governments.
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:09 AM
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The part in confused about is how you think that man has corrupted all forms of religion ,(which they have, not arguing on that) and yet somehow relying solely on science, which is mans observation of the world around him, would somehow be free from any form of the same type of corruption. If men made all religion, and men tell you what is and isn't true of science,aren't you in the same boat as any religious person? Youre still relying on men for your answers.
Science is just a tool we use to investigate the natural world.

http://http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka...www/node6.html

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1. Observe some aspect of the universe.
2. Invent a tentative description, called a hypothesis, that is consistent with what you have observed.
3. Use the hypothesis to make predictions.
4. Test those predictions by experiments or further observations and modify the hypothesis in the light of your results.
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until there are no discrepancies between theory and experiment and/or observation.

When consistency is obtained the hypothesis becomes a theory and provides a coherent set of propositions which explain a class of phenomena. A theory is then a framework within which observations are explained and predictions are made.
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:13 AM
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Science is just a tool we use to investigate the natural world.

http://http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka...www/node6.html
Ok. So there has never been anything science related that has been purposefully falsified to provide a predetermined answer?
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Old 06-21-2014, 01:22 AM
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Then it wouldn't be science. It would be propaganda.
Exactly. Only disguised as science. Thank you.
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