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Just wondering how any player agree'd upon rules enforced by GMs affects guild who are completely against the class system.
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this particular agreement only becomes one once all the Sky guilds sign it ( only missing TMO and IB off the schedule currently) so for example: Lord Bob never signs or agrees to this,the GMs cant punish them for killing the Overseer however they also face heavy pressure and public scrutiny...also it becomes a 10+guild versus 1 competition as everyone that signs basically has a vested interest in keeping the Overseers protected | |||
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I don't see us being able to get it changed in an official capacity (getting it included on raid.php) as that would require some additional work for Rogean and doing so may be outside of the scope of this agreement but I do not foresee any issue with all Class-R guilds agreeing to treat Noble spawns like this. | ||||
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Not that I would expect you to see past your jaded hatred or desire to secure an uncontested Noble for Asgard there. I mean who cares about TMO's best interests in the event if conflicts with your own, right? For the record though, you of all people here have the most unrestricted access to me through our vent. If you actually want to legitimately debate this beyond your tendency to stick to one liner type pot shots, you know how to find me. | |||
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I've only ever talked for any length of time to 4 TMO members, ever - two of which are/were officers and the conversation has always been focused around PoSky. I just go by what my own interactions indicate, and this is how I see it. The amount of anti-TMO hate is sometimes astounding and often seems based on things I find silly. Every guild on this server probably has the following goals when it comes to guild relations - to be treated with respect, not be the target of threats from others, and to respond if someone attacks them publicly. I don't have the burden of old TMO's legacy influencing my views towards them, because I've never seen it. I have, however, in the last 3 months, gone to talk to them in a reasonable manner, not threatened them when there are mix-ups, and avoided any stupidity in RNF. Generally the idea is to have a conversation like adults and not blow your top. Try it sometime, even with people you have a problem with, you might be surprised at the results. I know I was (given what I'd heard), and I know Argh has been as he's talked to them...and as he's talked to other guilds that one wouldn't expect to be civil, as he's worked on this OoA agreement. Despite the torch & pitchfork view that people seem to have on here, TMO didn't break the OoA NAP - IB did, and TMO didn't kill additional OoA's in the interm creating an even more tense environment - Taken did. They have their concerns, they stated their desires - just because they don't match up with yours doesn't mean they are nefarious. When everyone's position aligns, we will have an agreement. Until then, we simply do not, there is no need for yelling and insults. The only guild who hasn't spoken here (to my knowledge), is IB - and they're the ones who broke it in the first place. We're all being incredibly optimistic and silly in attacking TMO if the key player, the one who broke the first agreement, isn't coming to the table.
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This isnt going to look good, but if it really comes down to 16 hours of keyboard mashing or simply using a 3rd party program then I will take the 3rd party program all day long. I wouldnt wish 16 hours on jav spamming on my worst enemy, hell I wouldnt even wish that fate on tmo.
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The "you" there was directed at Chest, and yes i had the "let's try and do away with autofire all together" talk with various other class R guilds. Erati and i even seemed to more or less be on the same exact page on the matter when we spoke (which of course was before Catherin got caught, and he naturally went on the soften his stated stance some here. Still view him as one of the good guys though). The base claim i was coming to you in direct hopes you would "strong arm" IB is kinda humorous though. For starters, i already expected you not to care for reasons already stated in this thread. Beyond that, and to be perfectly blunt, i'd have an even harder time seeing Hoku/Getsome even hearing you out in the event you were to try [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I posted what i did there to once again stress that whether it's now or latter, autofire use is everybody's problem (not just TMO's). Just like i was well before the OOA agreement was broken. If this just so happens to serve as a reminder to that, so be it. I do admit i was fairly disappointed nobody seemed to see that though, and that your consistently jaded attitude towards our guild certainly isn't helping your case to convince us in the upside of getting 1/10 of the Noble cycle kills that we used to. (Edit. Somebody took offense i spelled a name wrong, so i fixed it) | |||
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