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Old 09-20-2014, 10:54 PM
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You don't want your children to be given any other options for belief?
I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "belief" here. There are plenty of things about the universe and the study of science that are hugely inspiring - just read about supermassive black holes or look at the Hubble images of galaxy clusters, or read Stephen Hawking's description of the event horizon. There are plenty of things that can be simply believed with a great deal of awe and wonder under the purview of science without involving superstitious, religious nonsense.

If you were referencing spirituality, then yes I am very much open-minded to that as well. I believe to be human is to have the desire for self-transcendence, and reach a more enlightened state of being if you will. Does this make me believe in anything supernatural? It does not. I believe there is no such thing as a suspension of the laws of physics, and it is this fact about our universe that is the only thing that can be described as miraculous.
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Old 09-20-2014, 10:58 PM
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I'm not sure if I understand what you mean by "belief" here. There are plenty of things about the universe and the study of science that are hugely inspiring - just read about supermassive black holes or look at the Hubble images of galaxy clusters, or read Stephen Hawking's description of the event horizon. There are plenty of things that can be simply believed with a great deal of awe and wonder under the purview of science without involving superstitious, religious nonsense.

If you were referencing spirituality, then yes I am very much open-minded to that as well. I believe to be human is to have the desire for self-transcendence, and reach a more enlightened state of being if you will. Does this make me believe in anything supernatural? It does not. I believe there is no such thing as a suspension of the laws of physics, and it is this fact about our universe that is the only thing that can be described as miraculous.
So Transhumanism is ok, but any mention of God is out of the question?
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:14 PM
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So Transhumanism is ok, but any mention of God is out of the question?
I don't care about the mention of god or deities - that's going to happen, anywhere and everywhere. But if you come into my house and start preaching religious bullshit, you're going to be leaving very quickly. The study of religious scripture, compulsory praise and worship, the participation in church, will never, ever be mandated to my kids. That is out of the question.
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:16 PM
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I don't care about the mention of god or deities - that's going to happen, anywhere and everywhere. But if you come into my house and start preaching religious bullshit, you're going to be leaving very quickly. The study of religious scripture, compulsory praise and worship, the participation in church, will never, ever be mandated to my kids. That is out of the question.
Just the doctrine of evolution. Got ya
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:16 PM
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I don't care about the mention of god or deities - that's going to happen, anywhere and everywhere. But if you come into my house and start preaching religious bullshit, you're going to be leaving very quickly. The study of religious scripture, compulsory praise and worship, the participation in church, will never, ever be mandated to my kids. That is out of the question.
What if your children are genuinely curious about the subject?
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:22 PM
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What if your children are genuinely curious about the subject?
Then they're free to learn as they wish, of course. I'd actually encourage reading religious literature, as it's actually quite well-written and fascinating in its own right. It is, after all, a part of our history.
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:24 PM
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Then they're free to learn as they wish, of course. I'd actually encourage reading religious literature, as it's actually quite well-written and fascinating in its own right. It is, after all, a part of our history.
Awesome. What if they decided to join a religion?
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:30 PM
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Awesome. What if they decided to join a religion?
I'd be perfectly fine with that, I'm not here to oppress them. It's my job to let them live and get out of the way, while giving as much moral support and guidance as is necessary of course.
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Old 09-20-2014, 11:19 PM
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I don't care about the mention of god or deities - that's going to happen, anywhere and everywhere. But if you come into my house and start preaching religious bullshit, you're going to be leaving very quickly. The study of religious scripture, compulsory praise and worship, the participation in church, will never, ever be mandated to my kids. That is out of the question.
Who lets someone in their house without knowing what they are going to talk to them. Unless you whole objective is to let them into your house and ridicule them. In that case, you are just a horrible human being and there is a bigger issue here than what your children are hearing at school.
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Old 09-21-2014, 12:09 AM
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I don't care about the mention of god or deities - that's going to happen, anywhere and everywhere. But if you come into my house and start preaching religious bullshit, you're going to be leaving very quickly. The study of religious scripture, compulsory praise and worship, the participation in church, will never, ever be mandated to my kids. That is out of the question.
I don't know, I'm pretty ignorant, but it seemed to be implied here.
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