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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on the subject of education, I don't understand why people that are upset that evolution is taught in science class arnt fine with there just being a religious studies class as an anthropological type of study where you learn of all religions instead of teaching people specifically about a christian believe, namely creationism.

Asking that creationism be taught in school is asking that the christian specific religion is taught in school, and asking for it to be taught in science class is asking for it to be taught in totally the wrong arena.

You are free to believe in evolution, and god. Unfortunately there are extremely right wing Christians that dont believe that is possible. They are drawing the line, where most scientists would agree, that you are free to believe in religion as much as you like, so long as you don't let it interfere with your scientific endeavors.

It doesn't got that way with creationists. Creationism isn't a science and it doesn't belong in schools not devoted to teaching the specifics of christian theology.

The THEORY of evolution still has many gaps. Theories have been proven wrong or had to be rewritten numerous times throughout history. Until we can close the gaps and stop putting faith in the areas where we 'think' we know what happened, why is that taught as THE answer?

There are plenty of people who have put together evidence of a creator. Some super intelligent being that was able to put together the sandbox in which we currently live. Could I label it as the THEORY of creationism? Sure, there are some gaps. But just look past those, because with enough time we'll find what we need to fill in those gaps. In the meantime, just trust me - I'm really smart, and I'm a scientist.

"Asking that creationism be taught in school is asking that the christian specific religion is taught in school, and asking for it to be taught in science class is asking for it to be taught in totally the wrong arena. "

Who said anything about that? Look at my past posts, I'm admitted that I'm not solid on my faith in being a Christian. And teaching Christianity isn't what I would ask for in science class. How certain are you that there wasn't some super intelligent thing/it that put all of this together? Is that really harder for you to believe than the random chance that all these observable laws in our sandbox just 'happen' to be? If you want to talk miraculous, that would be it -- just by chance, all of these laws work together to sustain this environment/life? That's the biggest coincidence I've ever been asked to swallow.

Little closer to the sun, little further away, little different climate...oops, no life and no Earth. We're just super lucky that it happened this way? We can observe gravity and many other natural laws. We take it for fact because time and time again we can test them and they behave the same way. Have you ever stopped to ask WHY they work this way? How fucking lucky for us! Pure coincidence.

Maybe God is a bunch of aliens who are laughing their asses off watching us try to figure it out. Maybe The Matrix (movie) is right, maybe we're all just a computer program and none of this is real. But to honestly reflect on all of the perfection around us and say that it's impossible that some super intelligent thing created this setting -- I can't really believe that you're being honest with yourself if you can dismiss it that easily. In fact, I find that more probable than mere coincidence. Many of my anti-God friends explain away so much by the term coincidence, but just how far can you go to think that this is all mere chance/luck?