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[iruinedyourday]

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Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you, Nephylite. It's good to see at least one creationist that doesn't disqualify themselves from the subject right off the bat.

You disqualified yourself from this conversation a long time ago

I thought you took your ball and went home? Back for another throttling?

[Patriam1066]

Lol I googled SJW....Does that really mean social justice warrior? I thought it was going to be something quite different.

Also I didn't read all 30 pages that you guys pump out in a day, but I saw Leewong call Hitler a devout catholic.

Hitler couldn't tell Germany, which at the time was still Christian, that he and Himmler / other Nazi leadership were occultists who believe in probably Odin as much as anything...

Either way, it's laughable that you think Hitler believed his messiah was jewish
Whether he completely modified christianity into a new form... Possible, how the fuck should I know. But I doubt he was worshipping the God of Abraham... IE the first Jew on earth

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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LOL
HAHAHAHA God damn that's funny

[Toofliss]

I'm not sure why I came back to read countless more pages of shit slinging. At the end of the day there are some people who remain open minded and others who have closed down to opposing thoughts.

I stated many pages back that I've spent many years as someone who was confident there was no God. My schooling (college included) led me to an arrogance that we as a species were just that fucking good that we could figure it all out (or even worse, we had it figured out). Since that time I went through some serious searching, doubting, and looking at things for myself.

While the die hard posters here likely won't be convinced one way or another, I'd simply ask the others that you give my view a bit of a look. Take some time to be quiet. Look with an open mind and a desire to understand everything that happens all around us. From the smallest functions of life to the biggest feats of the universe. Take time to digest everything that is taking place.

Can you honestly still say all of the rules, all of the amazing things that operate in harmony, and the wonderful interconnection between all of this that makes our world possible is all just coincidence? The incredible details with such small tolerances for error just happen to be exactly what they needed to be?

If you're able to make that decision, then I see no other word to describe your view than faith. When I look at the exact same amazing coincidences, it all points to an overwhelming abundance of evidence. It wasn't until I was truly willing to challenge what I had been taught the first few decades of my life that I started to see things differently.

Maybe you'll see things in a different light, maybe you won't. I felt I owed it to myself to explore all options, even if they seemed improbable (hell, impossible when I started). I don't post in threads like this to try and prove you guys wrong. Instead, maybe someone else is lurking and perhaps they're someone like me.

Now you may continue with the shit slinging -- if you want to contact me, private message or in game works best. I won't be back to view countless pages of attacks.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by Toofliss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you honestly still say all of the rules, all of the amazing things that operate in harmony, and the wonderful interconnection between all of this that makes our world possible is all just coincidence? The incredible details with such small tolerances for error just happen to be exactly what they needed to be?

This is actually one reason that some devout Atheists that have studied DNA strands have changed their perspective on life. Not that they are claiming God and Jesus Christ are the supreme rulers of this World, but the idea that a superior being doesn't just probably exist, but must.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol I googled SJW....Does that really mean social justice warrior? I thought it was going to be something quite different.

Also I didn't read all 30 pages that you guys pump out in a day, but I saw Leewong call Hitler a devout catholic.

Hitler couldn't tell Germany, which at the time was still Christian, that he and Himmler / other Nazi leadership were occultists who believe in probably Odin as much as anything...

Either way, it's laughable that you think Hitler believed his messiah was jewish
Whether he completely modified christianity into a new form... Possible, how the fuck should I know. But I doubt he was worshipping the God of Abraham... IE the first Jew on earth

Oh damn. I didnt even think of checking google. I just thought it stood for Senior Jizz Whore.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Toofliss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you honestly still say all of the rules, all of the amazing things that operate in harmony, and the wonderful interconnection between all of this that makes our world possible is all just coincidence? The incredible details with such small tolerances for error just happen to be exactly what they needed to be?

No reasoned atheist is suggesting that this is the case. We're simply saying that rejecting any idea that jumps to the conclusion of a divine, unfaltering supernatural entity being the creator of it all is a much more rational and logical stance to take.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol I googled SJW....Does that really mean social justice warrior? I thought it was going to be something quite different.

Also I didn't read all 30 pages that you guys pump out in a day, but I saw Leewong call Hitler a devout catholic.

Hitler couldn't tell Germany, which at the time was still Christian, that he and Himmler / other Nazi leadership were occultists who believe in probably Odin as much as anything...

Either way, it's laughable that you think Hitler believed his messiah was jewish
Whether he completely modified christianity into a new form... Possible, how the fuck should I know. But I doubt he was worshipping the God of Abraham... IE the first Jew on earth

You are spot on. Hitler was influenced by occult publications like Osatra magazine. They pretty much followed a strange form of theosophy from Madame Blavatsky and mixed it with some of the ideas from the Thule society and their weird space brother nonsense.Then this was peppered with nationalistic German paganism probably due to the romantics and people like Wagner influencing these guys growing up. Many of these people running these groups were defrocked monks and Jesuits like Himmler and Lanz Von Liebenfels. I don't think Hitler believed much of this after taking power and once Hess flew to England (he really believed in astrological readings)and was captured Hitler tried to put an end to many occult practices. I always laugh when people think Hitler and his cronies were Christians.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No reasoned atheist is suggesting that this is the case. We're simply saying that rejecting any idea that jumps to the conclusion of a divine, unfaltering supernatural entity being the creator of it all is a much more rational and logical stance to take.

So you believe in/accept a supernatural force?
An impersonal one i mean.