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Old 09-24-2014, 05:05 PM
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Bingo! One of the better posts I've read - wish I had been able to phrase it this way.
I dont think anyone here is disputing this. I do have a problem when he substitutes words like belief for faith though.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:06 PM
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I dont think anyone here is disputing this. I do have a problem when he substitutes words like belief for faith though.
Oops, wrong person. Doh!
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:13 PM
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Its the aliens made the shitty casino book episode.
I knew the episode, I just didn't remember Riker doing the bringing it back thing in that scene. I've since rewatched the scene and it appears my memory was lacking (it was a shitty episode regardless).
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Has nothing to do with the thread. Has everything to do with you. You fucking lied and you're still lying about it. You provided jack shit besides a school name when all you need to do is provide the names which are public record. Provide the names and prove your claims you lying POS or come clean. No more games.



Laughable buffoonery. You just aren't very smart. Instead of deflecting how about answering the question? If evolution is "proven science" there should be thousands of examples you could cite that would prove it's true.

DNA is 4-bit 3 dimensional code. There is no junk code contained within it. It has to be EXACT for each type or kind of animal which are limited to their genetic kinds. Species can work with pre-existing code within their genetic types/kinds, nobody is disputing that, but a dog's genetic coding can only work within other breeds of dogs. It won't work in a cat. Just like EQ source code would never work in WOW. They are two entirely different packages of software.

There is no genetic code within a dog that can turn it into a cat. It's like claiming a virus/malware (mutation) rewrote EQ source code and turned it into WOW. Not only that, but this happened purely by random chaotic chance. How did that code come into existence from nothing? How did it write itself (for each type/kind) by chaotic and unpredictable random chance?

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We're also losing code as time goes on because time = entropy. We're a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy over generation after generation. You're aware that we're losing species right? Probably at least 1k a year (mostly ocean life). DNA is weakening and degrading over time. If Evolution were true why aren't there any new species popping into existence? Why isn't there new and improved genetic code being written spontaneously from nothing?



I've been on these forums FAR longer than you. You're not going to be able to weasel your way out of this by calling me a troll. The "it's my phone" excuse is absolutely pathetic and desperate. What a hilariously small and weak person you are and a fucking lying fraud to boot.



It's a malformed question if you don't know the answer? Hahaha I thought it was settled science? We gotta have faith right?



Pure gobbly****. Scientists already acknowledge that Matter/Time/Space was created with "The Big Bang".



Hahahahahahahaha ...



They simply are? You sound like a religious zealot. The laws of the universe created themselves? How did the laws of mathematics create something let alone itself? Go ahead Einstein, tell us all how it was done. Grabs popcorn.



Time/Space/Matter started with "The Big Bang" according to science. Where did the Matter and Energy to produce/power this Big Bang come from? Hawking is a human being just like anyone else. Flawed and corrupt. He doesn't know everything about everything. He wasn't there when it happened.



You're trying to hide behind this pompous BS and the only thing you're accomplishing is looking like a total moron. You can't answer the questions. You're a religious zealot.



If there was "Nothing" before "The Big Bang" where did it come from? I thought you were logical?



Why don't you do some research and learn about what it is? Hint: Do you play guitar? Tune it. Each note is a specific frequency. The Universe is fine tuned this way so precise the odds that it's random chance are far beyond absurd.



Random Chance. Random Chance. Random Chance. Random Chance.

What word should be used? Creation? Design? Which one. Mutations are random chaotic chance. There is no Structure or Order to them. They are also 99.9999999999999999% harmful and destructive. Go sit in radiation for a few hours. See if you mutate into a superhero.



Oh you mean Evolution is a BS theory? You finally coming around?



Wait ... hold the phones. You won't touch abiogenesis and are now floating a theory that a "Creator" created the process of Evolution (which is random chaotic chance)? Lawl

Why would a Creator "create the process of Evolution" when all He would need to do is create DNA?



So what causes the gradual rewriting or spontaneous new genetic code to come into existence over time? If the theory is true, where is the evidence to support this assertion?



Jawless fish are still fish

Marsupials are still mammals

Kinds/Types

Their genetic code can only work within their respective genetic types. The Bible is 100% accurate in it's description btw. This was a book that written thousands of years before that idiot Darwin and his finches. How was it able to explain and have the foreknowledge of how life is genetically structured in this Universe when not even a microscope existed? In Darwin's time, cells were just blobbed. The entire premise of Darwin's theory rested on cells being simple. Not these complex and vast microbiological genetic cities with the most amazing real time error checking/debugging systems (not to mention self replicating) that make our latest technology look like legos.



I already have multiple times. You're just too stupid to understand it. Everything decays and becomes more disordered over time naturally. It doesn't randomly structure and order itself by random. The Universe is a closed system. Not our galaxy. The Sun adds to this decay over time. Look at the roof of some cars and houses for examples that your tiny brain can grasp.



I wasn't the one that asserted time is a force. You religious zealots are the ones that are asserting magical "gradual changes over time".



Fact actually. You fucking lied about having a personal connection to victims of Sandy Hook to try and shut down debate. You tried to hide behind an emotional lie because you are a lying fucking coward and low life POS. You need to start doing some personal reflection and make some badly needed changes. Your smug arrogance can no longer hide your lack of character and ethics.



Wait, so Evolution has gone from "settled and tested science" according to you bozos to now "the most plausible explanation"? Based on what? Certainly not Fossil or genetic evidence. So then what? Faith?



You wouldn't know logic if it stomped you in the face
If you had responded to a single point directly instead of relying on ad-hominem for literally all points, I'd care enough to address you. I'm also going to take from your response that you indeed think logic is sine sort of conspiratorial government control hoax.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:15 PM
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Personal anecdotes are not evidence.

1. You could be mistaken

2. You could have been fooled by someone

3. You could be delusional

4. You could be lying
So that because YOU are skeptical of MY life experiences gives you the right to tell me im wrong in what I BELIEVE in?
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:17 PM
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Did anyone notice that the mods changed the name of the thread?
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:19 PM
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Ever watch the show Ghost Hunters? Nuff said.
And also yes I have and that show is total BS. Try actually witnessing an apparition first hand and explaining it. I know what I experienced and why I BELIEVE there are higher powers.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:24 PM
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Did anyone notice that the mods changed the name of the thread?
thats fucking so fucked, they wont censor people using the Nword, creating posts about how Rust1d hates black people, but they censor a fucking childish word like, fuck?

MODS YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:26 PM
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So that because YOU are skeptical of MY life experiences gives you the right to tell me im wrong in what I BELIEVE in?
What is wrong with skepticism? Should I also believe in Scientology? They swear up and down that thetans are reality. What about those that claim unicorns exist? Nessy? Bigfoot? Witches?

When you make a claim, it isnt the listener's job to believe you. It is your job to convince them with tangible evidence. Personal anecdote is not reliable source at all.

If I used your criteria then all religions would be, by definition, true. So would aliens, Atlantis, the boogieman, etc.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:35 PM
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And also yes I have and that show is total BS. Try actually witnessing an apparition first hand and explaining it. I know what I experienced and why I BELIEVE there are higher powers.
Nope, you have faith. As I stated before you have no evidence. I dont doubt you had an experience. What produced that experience could be a number of things but you have zero proof of what caused them.
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Old 09-24-2014, 05:37 PM
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I'm certain you are all wrong. Pretty religious about it 2. Just letting you all know.
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