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Old 09-25-2014, 03:48 PM
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Pretty much play how you want to. The difference between epic fist + SoS and 2hand dps is not really that big a deal. The upside of a 2h is that you get less riposte procs and damage shields are not such a big threat.

Pretty much what you want to do is get epic, SoS, and any 2hand. Get Adamantite Club for the stun proc and you'll be pretty well set. TStaff is good, but IFS, RFS, Peacebringer are all good as well. I'd only suggest TStaff if you have the plat available or if you are really really really really into PvP.
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Old 09-25-2014, 05:28 PM
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Tstaff will outparse epic + sos quite easily with 200 or so dex and even more so if you weapon swap to get an extra round in.
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Old 09-28-2014, 07:01 PM
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Tstaff will outparse epic + sos quite easily with 200 or so dex and even more so if you weapon swap to get an extra round in.
Completely false. Epic Fist/SoS will win pure dpsing. Tstaff will win tanking.
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Old 09-28-2014, 10:05 PM
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Completely false. Epic Fist/SoS will win pure dpsing. Tstaff will win tanking.
Have you parsed this? I only hit 67 dps with epic/sos I can hit well over 70 with my tstaff, even higher when I weapon swap for an extra attack.
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Old 09-29-2014, 12:41 AM
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Have you parsed this? I only hit 67 dps with epic/sos I can hit well over 70 with my tstaff, even higher when I weapon swap for an extra attack.
This...

I've asked dozens and everyone has a different story.

Other than actually parsing it myself, have others parsed and have factual evidence one way or another?

The message I seem to get is t-staff is a few % better.

At the end of the day, is epic/sos or t-staff better dps when procs are included. Assuming >200 dex??
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:28 PM
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This...

I've asked dozens and everyone has a different story.

Other than actually parsing it myself, have others parsed and have factual evidence one way or another?

The message I seem to get is t-staff is a few % better.

At the end of the day, is epic/sos or t-staff better dps when procs are included. Assuming >200 dex??
I used to have parses of it when I was leveling (Been over a year since I leveled my monk and those logs were on a laptop I no longer have). The epic/SoS always parsed higher when I was fear kiting with intimidate and the tstaff would win out when I was tanking and eating ripostes/blocks etc.

I would use the tstaff till the intimate triggered then use epic/SoS. I think they have nerfed intimidate since then though. So it doesn't work as godly as it used to.
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:38 PM
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I used to have parses of it when I was leveling (Been over a year since I leveled my monk and those logs were on a laptop I no longer have). The epic/SoS always parsed higher when I was fear kiting with intimidate and the tstaff would win out when I was tanking and eating ripostes/blocks etc.

I would use the tstaff till the intimate triggered then use epic/SoS. I think they have nerfed intimidate since then though. So it doesn't work as godly as it used to.
it wasnt nerfed it was bug fixed
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:32 PM
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Have you parsed this? I only hit 67 dps with epic/sos I can hit well over 70 with my tstaff, even higher when I weapon swap for an extra attack.
Again it's situational but in non-tanking situations the t-staff will lose. I no longer have a tstaff as I sold it when I got a Bo Staff of Trorsmang(Thanks TMO our very first raid together) off of Nexona. The parses are on my old laptop but the fists and SoS won pretty handily.
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:36 PM
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Again it's situational but in non-tanking situations the t-staff will lose. I no longer have a tstaff as I sold it when I got a Bo Staff of Trorsmang(Thanks TMO our very first raid together) off of Nexona. The parses are on my old laptop but the fists and SoS won pretty handily.
I would agree with this,As a 60 monk who has parsed both T-staff and Epic/SoS on many mobs i can tell you that in most situations T-staff will lose unless u have godly dex and are great and not missing a swap for extra round. I have found epic/SoS to be more reliable dps.
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