religion

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are using a godless heathens UI, Glenzig :P

Its ok. I'll do 1,000 hail Mary's and flog my back tonight.

[RobotElvis]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could you imagine if you read this much documentation written by people who weren't just idiots that played EQ?

you guys might be smart enough in that scenario, to not just be idiots that play eq.

Thanks!

[iruinedyourday]

youre welcome!

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[runlvlzero]

Yeah there's no way I was going to participate in this thread. Won the religious card argument a few months back anyway with some good existentialism that made Hurb believe.

Shit, folks just critically evaluate everything and make up your own minds. Life is religious. Because there's no way to know for sure. It's either that or your one dead fucking zombie letting other people dictate your ideas.

So I laugh when I see people flame back and forth about religion. I mean I guess everyone's got a valid perspective on this. But you are all seriously missing the point.

The point being. Religion. Is just an organized faith that a larger group of people believe in. They kind of come and go like nations, ideas, commercialism, new products, species, etc...

This is has all happened before and will all happen again.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah there's no way I was going to participate in this thread.

You just did.

As for the rest of your nonsense. The world is becoming more and more secular everyday. Atheism is the fastest growing irreligious group in the US. Most of Europe is atheistic. Religion is dying a slow death.

[runlvlzero]

Atheism is just as rigid a belief system as any other. It does not allow for any growth. Therefore, religious. I know people argue it.

But you have to take the absence of a thing on faith just as much as you have to take the existence of a thing. Just because some people experience a thing and have more certainty than you. Doesn't make it good to refuse to believe there could be more.

It's like worshiping ignorance. Which is worse than worshiping rumors.

[runlvlzero]

I guess further athiesm imlplies the complete disbelief of something just because it is not scientific.

Thats pretty dumb. It's mechanical. And thoughtless.

There's plenty room in our lives for fiction and make believe. Or even the lucky random circumstance or actual miracle or yet to be understood forces.

Therefore, I condemn atheists to the shit heep I condem catholics to. To bad they can't truly undersand what it is they actually believe in. Because both have a lot to learn and give. If they could only let go of 'it must be this way'

Catholisicm for example has some very good historical reference points to other religions and is a great religion to study if you're interested in mans primitive power structures and brainwashing. There at the root of it all is some very good philisophical and actualy virtuous and yet uncorrupted spiritual proof to some of the stories as well.

But no one is willing to pull their heads out their asses and take the leap from cynisism to true skeptisism, to just understanding and applying and moving on with the flow.

[runlvlzero]

Eh live in misery as you want. Wish I knew how to truly spread enlightenment. But thats not what I'm here for. I'll let some other poor smuck chase that dream.

[leewong]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atheism is just as rigid a belief system as any other. It does not allow for any growth. Therefore, religious. I know people argue it.

But you have to take the absence of a thing on faith just as much as you have to take the existence of a thing. Just because some people experience a thing and have more certainty than you. Doesn't make it good to refuse to believe there could be more.

It's like worshiping ignorance. Which is worse than worshiping rumors.

Atheism only makes one statement. There is no evidence for god(s). No claim on anything else. What you are arguing is akin to saying those that dont believe in unicorns practice a rigid belief system. Is not collecting stamps also a religion?

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by leewong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Atheism only makes one statement. There is no evidence for god(s). No claim on anything else. What you are arguing is akin to saying those that dont believe in unicorns practice a rigid belief system. Is not collecting stamps also a religion?

Every single 'athiest' i've met and talked to is also so a-religious, I doubt that the athiestic dogma really permits the belief in anything outside of a transhumanist agenda of extending life and dominating those that don't believe what they do, and imposing their own political and moral views based on much scientific hooohooo. Some of which I respect and agree with. But certainly not all.

I once considered myself an athiest. But I got sick of reading athiests blogs.

I don't know what there may or may not be. I know that there may be nothing. And it doesn't hurt to practice a little faith. I also feel like my conciousness is to limited to use to judge the absence of a godess, gods, dieties, etc. It's foolish to say no.

I think people who dictate that their god must be worshiped is dumb, cause obviously seems pretty illogical god would only be a patriarchal male who plagerised a whole bunch of shit and made insane people write books.

BUT. Who knows? It's just way not likely. More likely the universe is holographic in nature or there's a spiritual side of things that may be understood in a technical way one day. But it's all rather new agey and there's a lot of ways one could go with it.

But I do believe it's likely that there are such things as a higher level conciousness that effectively is interested in us in some way and may interact with us. It's highly probable that we leave a mark permenant enough that it matters at some level to the rest of the universe. Even if we don't know what that is.

I mean Einstiens theory of relativity is great. But really time is experienced linearly, but it could be different. Just because were eating bits at a time doesn't mean that this path and tapestery isn't already woven.