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Old 09-29-2014, 03:25 PM
dartaniun dartaniun is offline
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The ranged dmg doesn't need to be fixed (although even with skill maxxed you still miss too often, maybe that could be looked at) ranged dmg has never been the primary choice of dps for rangers. Outside of using TS disc it's always been situational because getting in there and meleeing will always be more dps. Even after archery mastery AA came out which bumped up the dmg on ranged shots, it was still behind melee dmg when the weapons were on equal tiers. Even if you were using high end velious melee weapons and an elemental bow from PoP the melee would still be more dmg
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Old 09-29-2014, 03:40 PM
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Once PoP came out the PoP bows outparsed everything short of time weapons, without Trueshot.

PoP bows were a mistake in some regards. Their power and ease of attainability (in that they were tradeable and the water - 2nd best ratio - was off just trash mobs), compared to EP raid weapons wasn't even a comparison.

The only time our Rangers melee'd in Luclin and PoP fights was when a mob would be corner ranked (meaning the arrows would get lost in the wall and do 0 damage). It forced us to adjust positioning and balance push if Trueshot DPS was required to win the fight. This is why we would often tank Terris Thule (Time) out in the middle of her swampy corner instead of cornered.
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Old 09-29-2014, 03:51 PM
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I'd have to disagree with you on that Dald. Using an elemental bow was never higher dps for me unless using TS disc. That was with max worn haste and fleeting quiver. Melee weaps pre time I was using Stone etched mallet 26/28 1hb and 16/20 1hs from SSRA in Luclin
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:06 PM
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I'd have to disagree with you on that Dald. Using an elemental bow was never higher dps for me unless using TS disc. That was with max worn haste and fleeting quiver. Melee weaps pre time I was using Stone etched mallet 26/28 1hb and 16/20 1hs from SSRA in Luclin
Depends on how much you crit with the bow, since you can't crit with melee.

Plus, the effective range of archery was outside of AE range and for a while it was very rare to grab aggro from archery damage, even Trueshot disc damage, until the rogues and wizards screamed about it. I think that made it very attractive to use archery via melee in that area if the mob was not clipped into a wall.
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:18 PM
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once AA opens in Luclin, you can crit with melee. The ranged dmg aggro got changed in a patch well into PoP. I remember the wizards and mages complaining to no end about how much dmg we could do with practically 0 aggro. They just didn't like being knocked off the top spot of the parses
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:21 PM
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So now that this thread has been completely derailed. Guess its time to get back on track.

Bow kiting in p99 is very very low dps and situational at best in use
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Old 10-02-2014, 04:27 PM
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Default yes, bow kiting is painful...

But I do it. I could root+shoot blue gnolls down to 50% in High Hold Pass and then melee them no problem. Tried same tactic on blue mammoths in Everfrost. Those mammoths resist a lot, and root or snare does not last half as long as on the gnolls. And those mammoths hit HARD. But I can do it if I med + heal to full. And it's much easier with SoW and a HP buff.

I don't think archery was thought through thoroughly. I think I miss WAY too much and I get a lot of 2, 4, 7 point hits. I mean, where am I hitting the mob? In the freakin' fingernail? I don't think every arrow should hit for 50 pts, but we should be able to take down a blue mob with let's say, a stack and a half of arrows. Imagine if casters had to PURCHASE mana? Because that's pretty much analogous to what we do as rangers with arrows...

I must be very lucky because about a month or so ago I was given, over a 2 day period or so, by complete strangers,
1) Runed Oak Bow (was in SK - maybe it was the person who posted above [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )
2) trueshot bow
3) raincaller
4) couple ivy etched pieces

I should have written their names down but did not. Thanks if it was you. Makes my life a lot easier and game more enjoyable and I was able to earn plat to buy some additional weapons.

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Old 10-02-2014, 04:54 PM
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well alot of casters (especially soloing wiz and dru) do purchase mana (in the form of clarity)
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