Game Mechanics: Rogue Poisons Doing Same Damage Across Different Tiers of Same Poison Line - Page 2

**nilbog** · #11 10-02-2014, 12:18 PM

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14309        Crookstinger Poison        764        Feeble Mind V

Feeble Mind V does not exist. On lucy, it shows Crookstinger Poison as Feeble Mind I.

Could I get some more checks on evilkorn's list?

I have the statement prepared to run so far, but it will be harder to track down problems later.

edit: as an alternate way of checking, use this site: http://lucy.allakhazam.com/item.html?id=14309 Do an item search for the name, and see what effect is listed at the top.

evilkorn · #12 10-02-2014, 02:00 PM

I did some spot checks and they appear to jive with lucy. Crookstinger was unlisted but yea that was a bad one to miss and should have been obviously wrong.

The Thread Necromancer · #13 10-03-2014, 01:22 AM

This will be a rather long post, but should contain all the necessary information for correcting poisons. I see I made a mistake in my previous post and did not catch the nonexistent Feeble Mind V.

In the interest of being as comprehensive as possible, here are the full list of poisons, arranged alphabetically by effect and sorted by strength (tier). All data is now coming from Lucy; all terminology is as found on Lucy (i.e. "Paralyzing Poison" instead of "Paralyzing Root"); all references are included below as well.

Maddening Sap = Berserker Madness I
Zek Frost = Berserker Madness II
Essence of Rallos = Berserker Madness III
Warlords Rage = Berserker Madness IV

Retinal Deactivator = Blinding Poison I
Eyeburn Solution = Blinding Poison II
Shadowveil Hemlock = Blinding Poison III

Delusional Swiftness = Brittle Haste I
Xegony's Curse = Brittle Haste II
Paradoxical Peptide = Brittle Haste III
Rending Swiftness = Brittle Haste IV

Asp Poison = Contact Poison I
Giant Wasp Venom = Contact Poison I
Aching Blood = Contact Poison II
Visionistic Pain = Contact Poison III
Soul Burn = Contact Poison IV

Sweet Lathyris = Dizzy I
Languid Lixt Wing = Dizzy II
Crippling Peptide = Dizzy III
Twisting Disorientation = Dizzy IV

Crookstinger Poison = Feeble Mind I
Cyclan Butil = Feeble Mind I
Powdered Banality = Feeble Mind II
Cranial Cryofrost = Feeble Mind III
Mages Bane = Feeble Mind IV

Solvent Gangrene = Flesh Rot I
Leprous Pus = Flesh Rot II
Visceral Rot = Flesh Rot III

Putrid Bane = Injected Poison I
Snake Venom = Injected Poison I
Choking Asmag = Injected Poison II
Amnesic Lolium = Injected Poison III
Smoldering Cyanide = Injected Poison IV
Inferno Blood = Injected Poison V

Lixt Wing Dust = Liquid Silver I
Calcium Rot = Liquid Silver II
Temporal Rot = Liquid Silver III

Festering Nettle = Lower Resists I
Dilapidating Ash = Lower Resists II
Cyclic Vertigo = Lower Resists III
Susceptible Essence = Lower Resists IV

Basilisk Poison = Muscle Lock I
Lethargic Bliss = Muscle Lock II
Pacifying Whisper = Muscle Lock III
Spirit of Sloth = Muscle Lock IV

Spine Break = Paralyzing Poison I
Kinetic Suppressant = Paralyzing Poison II
Stiffening Ergot = Paralyzing Poison III

Rancid Wolfkiller = Poison Animal I
Beastchoker = Poison Animal II
Carnivore Mortis = Poison Animal III

Anti-Element = Poison Summoned I
Corrosive Solvent = Poison Summoned II
Acidic Dissolver = Poison Summoned III

Crystal Eritus = System Shock I
Vial of Rabid Froth = System Shock I
Brain Freeze = System Shock II
Metallic Alkaloid = System Shock III
Iron Dimethyl = System Shock IV
Mind Melt = System Shock V

Regalis Poison = Weakening Poison I
Spider Venom = Weakening Poison I
Atrophic Sap = Weakening Poison II
Monk's Hood Aconite = Weakening Poison III
Horrendous Atrophy = Weakening Poison IV

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References:

Berserker Madness I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...36&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...58&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...59&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...79&source=Live

Blinding Poison I-III
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...32&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...39&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...40&source=Live

Brittle Haste I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...38&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...49&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...50&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...80&source=Live

Contact Poison I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...61&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...53&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...54&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...55&source=Live

Dizzy I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...66&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...68&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...69&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...82&source=Live

Feeble Mind I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...64&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...63&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...64&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...76&source=Live

Flesh Rot I-III
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...37&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...47&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...48&source=Live

Injected Poison I-V
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...65&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...65&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...66&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...67&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...83&source=Live

Liquid Silver I-III
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...67&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...70&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...71&source=Live

Lower Resists I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...68&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...72&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...73&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...77&source=Live

Muscle Lock I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...62&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...56&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...57&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...75&source=Live

Paralyzing Poison I-III
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...33&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...41&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...42&source=Live

Poison Animal I-III
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...34&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...43&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...44&source=Live

Poison Summoned I-III
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...35&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...45&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...46&source=Live

System Shock I-V
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...63&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...60&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...61&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...62&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...81&source=Live

Weakening Poison I-IV
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...60&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...51&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...52&source=Live
http://lucy.allakhazam.com/spell.htm...78&source=Live

**nilbog** · #14 10-03-2014, 01:35 PM

Fixed, pending update.

Here is a new query result, with the changes how they now appear in db. If I missed something, please let me know.

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14056    Maddening Sap    1836    Berserker Madness I
14072    Zek Frost    1858    Berserker Madness II
14088    Essence of Rallos    1859    Berserker Madness III
14096    Warlords Rage    1879    Berserker Madness IV
14050    Retinal Deactivator    1832    Blinding Poison I
14059    Eyeburn Solution    1839    Blinding Poison II
14074    Shadowveil Hemlock    1840    Blinding Poison III
14053    Delusional Swiftness    1838    Brittle Haste I
14067    Xegony's Curse    1849    Brittle Haste II
14082    Paradoxical Peptide    1850    Brittle Haste III
14097    Rending Swiftness    1880    Brittle Haste IV
14024    Giant Wasp Venom    761    Contact Poison
14033    Asp Poison    761    Contact Poison
14058    Aching Blood    1853    Contact Poison II
14076    Visionistic Pain    1854    Contact Poison III
14095    Soul Burn    1855    Contact Poison IV
14038    Sweet Lathyris    766    Dizzy
14066    Languid Lixt Wing    1868    Dizzy II
14083    Crippling Peptide    1869    Dizzy III
14099    Twisting Disorientation    1882    Dizzy IV
14309    Crookstinger Poison    764    Feeble Mind
14036    Cyclan Butil    764    Feeble Mind
14064    Powdered Banality    1863    Feeble Mind II
14079    Cranial Cryofrost    1864    Feeble Mind III
14092    Mages Bane    1876    Feeble Mind IV
14052    Solvent Gangrene    1837    Flesh Rot I
14063    Leprous Pus    1847    Flesh Rot II
14080    Visceral Rot    1848    Flesh Rot III
14037    Putrid Bane    765    Injected Poison
14016    Snake Venom    765    Injected Poison
14065    Choking Asmag    1865    Injected Poison II
14081    Amnesic Lolium    1866    Injected Poison III
14089    Smoldering Cyanide    1867    Injected Poison IV
14049    Inferno Blood    1883    Injected Poison V
14039    Lixt Wing Dust    767    Liquid Silver
14068    Calcium Rot    1870    Liquid Silver II
14084    Temporal Rot    1871    Liquid Silver III
14040    Festering Nettle    768    Lower Resists
14071    Dilapidating Ash    1872    Lower Resists II
14085    Cyclic Vertigo    1873    Lower Resists III
14093    Susceptible Essence    1877    Lower Resists IV
14034    Basilisk Poison    762    Muscle Lock
14061    Lethargic Bliss    1856    Muscle Lock II
14078    Pacifying Whisper    1857    Muscle Lock III
14091    Spirit of Sloth    1875    Muscle Lock IV
14051    Spine Break    1833    Paralyzing Poison I
14060    Kinetic Suppressant    1841    Paralyzing Poison II
14075    Stiffening Ergot    1842    Paralyzing Poison III
14054    Rancid Wolfkiller    1834    Poison Animal I
14069    Beastchoker    1843    Poison Animal II
14086    Carnivore Mortis    1844    Poison Animal III
14055    Anti-Element    1835    Poison Summoned I
14070    Corrosive Solvent    1845    Poison Summoned II
14087    Acidic Dissolver    1846    Poison Summoned III
14035    Crystal Eritus    763    System Shock
14062    Brain Freeze    1860    System Shock II
14077    Metallic Alkaloid    1861    System Shock III
14301    Vial of Rabid Froth    1862    System Shock IV
14090    Iron Dimethyl    1862    System Shock IV
14098    Mind Melt    1881    System Shock V
14015    Spider Venom    760    Weakening Poison
14032    Regalis Poison    760    Weakening Poison
14057    Atrophic Sap    1851    Weakening Poison II
14073    Monk's Hood Aconite    1852    Weakening Poison III
14094    Horrendous Atrophy    1878    Weakening Poison IV

The Thread Necromancer · #15 10-03-2014, 03:54 PM

99% correct at this point. It seems we've all overlooked the fact that 14301 Vial of Rabid Froth 1862 System Shock IV is a dropable and not a craftable (drops apparently from Gnashmaw in South Karana). I don't know if it's supposed to be in this list or not since it is a dropped item, I'll leave that to you. It's also supposed to be System Shock I, currently it is listed as System Shock IV.

Lastly, I take it that a poison listed without a Roman Numeral at the end == I ? (such as Basilisk Poison listed as "Muscle Lock" instead of "Muscle Lock I" ?

evilkorn · #16 10-03-2014, 04:13 PM

Thanks, I had that one corrected on my text file, I remembered looking that one up on alla and saw it was dropped as well but for some reason I must not have updated the post.

**nilbog** · #17 10-04-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Thread Necromancer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

99% correct at this point. It seems we've all overlooked the fact that 14301 Vial of Rabid Froth 1862 System Shock IV is a dropable and not a craftable (drops apparently from Gnashmaw in South Karana). I don't know if it's supposed to be in this list or not since it is a dropped item, I'll leave that to you. It's also supposed to be System Shock I, currently it is listed as System Shock IV.

Fixed, pending update.

Quote:

Lastly, I take it that a poison listed without a Roman Numeral at the end == I ? (such as Basilisk Poison listed as "Muscle Lock" instead of "Muscle Lock I" ?

Correct. For further verification, if you are using lucy, you can click on the 'Raw' tab and check under the ID field. That number should correspond to the proceffect in the query results.