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Old 10-09-2014, 11:34 PM
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Well let's do some math. The Catholic church, widely held as the single most corrupt and fraudulent organization on the planet, just got a new pope. Pope Francis is a rational, thought provoking individual that nobody in their right mind would ever try to downplay as being just another of the figureheads that popes in the past have been. Yet after he has said some fairly radical things (by christian standards) such as creationistic evolution being in line with the words of the bible, or according to the bible atheists need not necessarily burn in hell for eternity if they are honestly good people, or my favorite one, his preaching live and let live. Heck, he's even recently stated that parents should *gasp* discuss sex with their children! Oh the humanity!
Yet the bishops and cardinals are now doing what they can to keep him from speaking because guess what. Pope Francis is but one good man, in a cesspool of corrupt individuals (aka trash).

Now let's take a look at a few of those christian charity organizations that you seem to covet so much.

Father Bruce Ritter: Fitting that back in the day they compared him to Mother Theresa (We'll talk more about her later). Let's just say he's one of many 'good christians' who ran homeless shelters and extorted sexual activity from the residents.

John Bennet Jr. who ran the Foundation for New Era Philanthropy which was a ponzi scheme and he paid himself over 23,000 a week in 'consulting fees'. He used his reputation as a leading Christian figure to disarm donor suspicions of which he managed to get investments from major nonprofits like American Red Cross, World Vision, and Nature Conservancy.

Look at the Salvation Army with it's hiring practices and the people they outright refuse to help based on their sexual preference.

Then there's Mother Theresa... oh boy. So many books written on that despicable woman and her sadistic torture operation.

These are just a few of many examples around. Does this mean that there aren't any good christian charity organizations? Of course not. That said, a few good apples doesn't suddenly un-spoil the bunch.

Now let's look at a group like Susan G. Komen, which isn't a christian charity, yet they are funded primarily by right-winged groups, groups which via their money have pushed the organization to do some really stupid things. First by campaigning against planned parenthood, and then against embryonic stem-cell research. Now they are promoting fucking fracking, which uses assloads of carcinogenic chemicals.
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A group that is supposed to be fighting cancer, working happily with one of the causes of it... Think before you pink.


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This is such a distortion of the truth, I don't even want to give you the credit of evoking me to form a concise answer.

In theory. Communism is also a model form of government... in theory.

This is more cherry picking. Firstly, the success of the western world had come despite the actions of Christianity.
Look at Issac Newton. Everyone always totes about how he was superbly religious, yet while he identified as Christian, he didn't believe in the holy trinity and his experiments/discoveries had him that close to being tried as a heretic, which would likely have happened had he not suddenly began to claim that God was directly involved in his discovery of gravity.

Just mentioning the names Copernicus and Galileo speaks for themselves.

Giordano Bruno was burnt at the stake when the church didn't even have an official stance on Heliocentric models.
There's a laundry list of people who were killed specifically because the both the Catholic church as well as the pre and post Protestant church of England were afraid of progress.


Your reading comprehension must be pretty poor if you gathered from my response that I actually agree with your stance that Buddhists are somehow less moral than people who hail from an Abrahamic faith.
It's simply yet another flaw in your 'opinion'.

uh.. that's a tough one! (also follow your questions with question marks next time)
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The League of Militant Atheists aided the Soviet government in killing clergy and committed believers.[48] The League also made it a priority to remove religious icons from the homes of believers.[49] Under the slogan, "the Storming of Heaven," the League of Militant Atheists pressed for "resolute action against religious peasants" leading to the mass arrest and exile of many believers, especially village priests. By 1940, "over 100 bishops, tens of thousands of Orthodox clergy, and thousands of monks and lay believers had been killed or had died in Soviet prisons and the Gulag.

The League purged its rightist members in 1932–1934. In addition, the League of Militant Atheists sometimes took a violent approach to those who would not accept the League's message. For example, "bishops, priests, and lay believers" were "arrested, shot, and sent to labour camps."[25]

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