What is the solo camp potential of a 60 shaman without puppet strings?

[Liia]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New 60 Shaman, soloed NG in Seb for about 3 hours today. Have epic, have fungi. One thing I only tried once because I was ambushed was killing the pather when it was a Krup Wizard. Mauled dogdog in 3 casts so I rooted, LOS'd, camped. Didn't have any issue against Krup Shaman, etc.

Is it readily feasible to think I can kill a Krup Wizard pather solo, while holding down the 3 bugs? Even if I take a short break to med/heal to full, I get to feeling he'd blast dogdog and myself down quickly before he ran out of mana.

Any suggestions?

Just kill the pather first if you wanna kill him. Otherwise you have enough room to kill all 3 scarabs and avoid the pather. You can also pop a Krup Knight and don"t kill it. Just root him while you kill the scarabs then log off. That pather may also gate if he is a shaman or wizard which make killing the pather even more deadly.

Regarding killing the wizard can be really tricky, you would have at least resist buff yourself, root rot it and LoS between some nukes so you can heal yourself. I'd suggest you to try to at least bash is Ice comet cause that nuke is the deadly one he may cast.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Korben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New 60 Shaman, soloed NG in Seb for about 3 hours today. Have epic, have fungi. One thing I only tried once because I was ambushed was killing the pather when it was a Krup Wizard. Mauled dogdog in 3 casts so I rooted, LOS'd, camped. Didn't have any issue against Krup Shaman, etc.

Is it readily feasible to think I can kill a Krup Wizard pather solo, while holding down the 3 bugs? Even if I take a short break to med/heal to full, I get to feeling he'd blast dogdog and myself down quickly before he ran out of mana.

Any suggestions?

Torpor would help a lot. Not trying to sound like a ass. I would probably want to have Torpor spell than a Fungi if I had to choose. I know it is tough to afford both items. Shaman is a VERY expensive class to play. Up there with a Warrior cost wise.

You just have to be wiling to die a lot of times to figure out different ideas that may work out. Sort of sucks but everyone has different mana pools, skills, hard to say just do "this" or "that". It is a cat and mouse thingy in there for sure.

[davedeck42]

Invest in some resist gear, it will go a LONG way against some of the higher level casters in Seb and you tank them instead of your pet. Like other people said, Torpor > Fungi if you had to choose but the good news is with torpor, jbb and epic you can farm cash for an ikky bp and then eventually a new fungi.

[Pint]

The biggest difference for me when shaman soloing was acquiring a really good set of mr/cr gear and using the greater null and greater cr pots, changes those caster fights significantly.

[Toehammer]

good advice all around here, I don't like the intense camps like HS wings as much because family loves to interrupt me.

3 camps I have found work best for me (60 troll, epic, fungi, planar, all spells, nothing else special):

1) crypt: I actually only have much trouble with Freglor... he can be a pain in the ass sometimes, other than that I can hold down the other 3 mobs no problem... sometimes Hierophant gets in some extra spells on me though. Getting in/out of crypt sucks, especially not wanting to give up firepots bind.

2) NG, in my opinion this is the most steady, relaxing camp that keeps you moderately attentive and makes good money. Avoid krup wizards and shamans if possible... gate will kill you. However, I pull at least 1 rare gem every 1.5 hours, +5 or so 100pp gems. it is pretty awesome. If you have 8 ten-slot backpacks, you can have like 50-100k pp on you in gems/jewelry. This is how I funded an extra fungi/CoF for my monk. Getting to NG with see invis is a problem, although ask a savvy player about levitate sprinting!

3) frenzied in Lguk... probably a FBSS every 10 hours or so... sometimes 2x/10hr, just kill them quickly. Pretty simple with slow... can even do hand/supplier/arch magi at the same time if careful (nothing to sneeze at in terms of pp). I would avoid using pet here as he tends to warp and drag a whole floor with him.

I was camped out at NG for 4-5 months over a year ago (haven't played much since then) and was pulling usually 3k in 1.5 hours. Then I just started saving rare gems, got some stacks I think, for velious.

Some things in the thread I disagree with though. I don't really see the logic behind fungi being discarded for other chest armor... basically if one fight lasts 2-3 minutes, it is like having a 600hp chestpiece on. Also, it makes you need to pay less attention to torpor/cannibalize. It is one free torpor (1200hp) every 8 minutes, which is huge. In some sense, you can be lazy with regrowth (I would say 50% of the time I don't even have regrowth on) when you have a fungi. Also, no matter how much the troll/barb/iksar/ogre debate rages on, a 60 shaman with torpor/epic makes the race a very very small difference. I think there is really almost no difference between them. JBB helps a lot, regen is nice, frontal bash immunity is good. Also, most interrupts I see are from push, not stun. I think people overvalue frontal bash immunity... I have never died as a troll because I got interrupted trying to slow. If you get interrupted that much you are not rooting/malo/slowing in the right combination or order, and should experiment some more on different difficulty mobs. Once you know what works in general, almost all mobs are easy... slow is the most powerful spell in the game in my opinion.

For leveling, once you get epic, HS entrance is tough to beat. Efreeti mobs and bear pits can be fun, but I find HS entrance/basement is fast. Efreeti camp with a monk IMHO is the fastest way to get 55-60 though for a shaman.

I haven't played in a year though, so these root changes I keep hearing whispers about are scaring me. How bad is it? Have to malo now?

-Ghwerig

[Korben]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good advice all around here, I don't like the intense camps like HS wings as much because family loves to interrupt me.

3 camps I have found work best for me (60 troll, epic, fungi, planar, all spells, nothing else special):

1) crypt: I actually only have much trouble with Freglor... he can be a pain in the ass sometimes, other than that I can hold down the other 3 mobs no problem... sometimes Hierophant gets in some extra spells on me though. Getting in/out of crypt sucks, especially not wanting to give up firepots bind.

2) NG, in my opinion this is the most steady, relaxing camp that keeps you moderately attentive and makes good money. Avoid krup wizards and shamans if possible... gate will kill you. However, I pull at least 1 rare gem every 1.5 hours, +5 or so 100pp gems. it is pretty awesome. If you have 8 ten-slot backpacks, you can have like 50-100k pp on you in gems/jewelry. This is how I funded an extra fungi/CoF for my monk. Getting to NG with see invis is a problem, although ask a savvy player about levitate sprinting!

3) frenzied in Lguk... probably a FBSS every 10 hours or so... sometimes 2x/10hr, just kill them quickly. Pretty simple with slow... can even do hand/supplier/arch magi at the same time if careful (nothing to sneeze at in terms of pp). I would avoid using pet here as he tends to warp and drag a whole floor with him.

I was camped out at NG for 4-5 months over a year ago (haven't played much since then) and was pulling usually 3k in 1.5 hours. Then I just started saving rare gems, got some stacks I think, for velious.

Some things in the thread I disagree with though. I don't really see the logic behind fungi being discarded for other chest armor... basically if one fight lasts 2-3 minutes, it is like having a 600hp chestpiece on. Also, it makes you need to pay less attention to torpor/cannibalize. It is one free torpor (1200hp) every 8 minutes, which is huge. In some sense, you can be lazy with regrowth (I would say 50% of the time I don't even have regrowth on) when you have a fungi. Also, no matter how much the troll/barb/iksar/ogre debate rages on, a 60 shaman with torpor/epic makes the race a very very small difference. I think there is really almost no difference between them. JBB helps a lot, regen is nice, frontal bash immunity is good. Also, most interrupts I see are from push, not stun. I think people overvalue frontal bash immunity... I have never died as a troll because I got interrupted trying to slow. If you get interrupted that much you are not rooting/malo/slowing in the right combination or order, and should experiment some more on different difficulty mobs. Once you know what works in general, almost all mobs are easy... slow is the most powerful spell in the game in my opinion.

For leveling, once you get epic, HS entrance is tough to beat. Efreeti mobs and bear pits can be fun, but I find HS entrance/basement is fast. Efreeti camp with a monk IMHO is the fastest way to get 55-60 though for a shaman.

I haven't played in a year though, so these root changes I keep hearing whispers about are scaring me. How bad is it? Have to malo now?

-Ghwerig

Nice post, sorry my only response here is that the root changes are a bitch while leveling but once I was like 55+ they seemed to taper off significantly. I'd wager 96% of roots are lasting full duration even when my pet pulled 5 mobs at once to crypt.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shamans can do some crazy things at times, but no way you are doing HS North solo. And You had better be a Ogre Shaman at that to even try. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Every patch lately has just made some things harder and harder. Man if one of your roots break you are toast compared to a Chanter being able to mezz. They can charm a lot higher DPS mob than your dog can do by far. I know Shamans can take on 2 or 3 mobs in KC or Seb and with some luck with Torpar and the Epic make it happen, but clearing out a whole room full of mobs just is not what they are cut out for. They are good toe to toe with one mob IF you are a Ogre, even in Velious. I think you are trying to do something that is not going to have a good outcome. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, at least I can discount anything you have to say for now on... rofl !