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Old 11-25-2014, 11:29 PM
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This would not solve anything. In fact, it would likely create MORE drama. Any petition that is overturned people will cry favoritism. Any decision made would be questioned and heavily scrutinized, especially since the public wouldn't understand all the nuances that factored in to that decision.
"Based on factual evidence presented X, Guild Y is found in violation of server/raid rule Z."

A consistent enforcement of the rules couldn't be questioned or scrutinized. That's the point.
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Old 11-25-2014, 11:29 PM
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This would not solve anything. In fact, it would likely create MORE drama. Any petition that is overturned people will cry favoritism. Any decision made would be questioned and heavily scrutinized, especially since the public wouldn't understand all the nuances that factored in to that decision.
Petitions that are appealed and overturned already cause sides to cry favoritism.

Decisions are already questioned and heavily scrutinized.

The public right now can not even begin to understand the nuances because there is a lack of consistency to outcomes from the same situations. The raid rules change week to week and month to month as the petitions happen behind a curtain with rules being told to one group and not the rest of the community.

A public petition would allow for an accessible repository of rulings, reasons, and meted punishments that people could begin to rely on. If we do X, then Y will happen to us.
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Old 11-26-2014, 12:46 AM
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This would not solve anything. In fact, it would likely create MORE drama.
I support public petitions based on possible infusion of drama.
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:50 AM
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what if the raid petitions were kept private until they were resolved?

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what if there was a date, raid petitions will be made public X days after resolution



and @Daldaan, i wish i did get paid to stream, it would give you something else to QQ about
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Old 11-26-2014, 04:53 AM
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:02 AM
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Should be public.
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Old 11-26-2014, 06:26 AM
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I think this is an excellent idea, fully support the notion.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:24 AM
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This would create so much work for the GM's
The rule lawyering would start working in petition case law digging up and quoting various GM rulings. It's not so much about consistent rulings it's about every situation being unique.

Bad idea is just bad
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Old 11-26-2014, 09:10 AM
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what if the raid petitions were kept private until they were resolved?

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what if there was a date, raid petitions will be made public X days after resolution



and @Daldaan, i wish i did get paid to stream, it would give you something else to QQ about
Oh I have plenty of non-classic things to QQ about as is. Unsure if more QQ is possible.

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Old 11-26-2014, 09:20 AM
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I propose a different solution which will be less work and headaches: Moderate the forums. Get rid of RnF entirely; any thread you'd move there, delete it instead. If that adds too much to the work, there's gotta be one person who is on these forums all day long who would jump at the chance to silence a few posters.
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