Come together to make corpsing bannable!

[Niedar]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made a post in either this thread or the other thread related to this one that goes into further details as to why this isn't a problem.

It's a molehill being turned into a mountain by a handful of people who expect camps to be open and available when they want them to be. That just isn't going to happen. I looked into all the major "problem" camps that people seem to be complaining about in these threads - the same camps that are "perma-camped" to the point where it's become a "serious issue" - like the AC, Tranix, etc. and found that they are all being rotated just fine. Plenty of people are getting an opportunity to camp these items - hence, a non-issue.

We don't necessarily like it, but Sirken already asked if it was possible to limit lore items to 1 even on corpses - unfortunately, because of the way corpses are coded, this would be exceedingly difficult and time consuming. Not worth it.

If they were to play on red on the other hand...

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a molehill being turned into a mountain by a handful of people who expect camps to be open and available when they want them to be. That just isn't going to happen. I looked into all the major "problem" camps that people seem to be complaining about in these threads - the same camps that are "perma-camped" to the point where it's become a "serious issue" - like the AC, Tranix, etc. and found that they are all being rotated just fine. Plenty of people are getting an opportunity to camp these items - hence, a non-issue.

I was done with Tranix before you made rule to be frank; only continued to push it because of the thread somebody made. I'm not interested in the camp anymore and haven't been for quite some time since I pushed it to my limit, but having said that BDA has held the camp the whole time since Asgard did it for few days after myself.

Nobody even asked me to get on list for the last 3 weeks I camped it, and the week the new rule was input. More power to BDA for holding the camp it's a good item, and I don't knock them for it because I enjoy playing an EQ with less rules. A sandbox EQ that was around before it was tarnished with ridiculous rules. However, its silly to white knight the situation when in reality they've controlled the camp ever sense lol. Nobody has used the new list rule at Tranix as far as I've witnessed; doesn't seem successful.

[Man0warr]

BDA isn't corpsing crowns in order to push up the price in EC, though. Nor are we there AFK on one char then switching over to another (thus technically losing your camp) to kill Tranix - there is always a force there.

We have a bunch of guildmates who need a crown for resist gear so essentially we are passing the camp off to another guildmate when a crown drops - which is well within the rules. The people there camping Tranix are not the same ones that were there last week, or even a few days ago.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was done with Tranix before you made rule to be frank; only continued to push it because of the thread somebody made. I'm not interested in the camp anymore and haven't been for quite some time since I pushed it to my limit, but having said that BDA has held the camp the whole time since Asgard did it for few days after myself.

Nobody even asked me to get on list for the last 3 weeks I camped it, and the week the new rule was input. More power to BDA for holding the camp it's a good item, and I don't knock them for it because I enjoy playing an EQ with less rules. A sandbox EQ that was around before it was tarnished with ridiculous rules. However, its silly to white knight the situation when in reality they've controlled the camp ever sense lol. Nobody has used the new list rule at Tranix as far as I've witnessed; doesn't seem successful.

well you may be able to say that you coincidentally were done with it the day that Derb posted the rule about having to pass over a camp after you get your item.. But whether you know it or not, everyone I spoke to that took the camp after said "I'm camping it cus now you have to hand the camp over when you get your item".

I'm not saying that the rule is the reason you left, but it seemed to be working immediately.

Also people weren't sending you tells because everyone was saying to each other, 'he is permacamping it, so there is no point in trying to camp it' because people didn't know that you had to pass the camp on after you got your item.

If the rule was well known as it is now when you started your permacamping clark, you would not have been able to own it as long as you did.

You had a great run and ima let you finish but taylor swift had the best video of all time.

[jeremy0818]

I think one of the major problem is the knowledge base, available knowledge and expectations of average player of the population, which you really can't 'ban' or 'reverse'

- Back in kunark/velious far less players aimed or achieved reaching lvl 60, especially on newer servers, let alone alts

- Much less players knew about epic quests, end gear etc let alone obtaining them

- Much less players cared about min/maxing stats, race benefits, class and so on

- Very few end players ever cared about obtaining utility toys, such as bracers of hidden, Pegasus cloak, bunch of other clickies and rechargeables

- Even 2-boxing was quite a rarity, it was rare for people back then to own two machines capable of running EQ smoothly, and it was even rarer for people to think about paying the price of 2/3 of a brand new game every month to run two characters on a game. I know it is not allowed to box here, but almost everyone here know it as if it is some common sense

- Not as many information about quests, spawns, statistics, maps, tactics, guides, quest walkthrough were available back then, or at least some of the information were not complete or inaccurate. Chardok, Howling Stones, Veeshan's Peak, Plane of Sky, Temple of Veeshan, Siren's Grotto, Skyshrine, Sleeper's Tomb and some other maps were incomplete or not very public until far into Luclin to give some example

- Bard PL, corpsing, DS-sit PLing were definitely not prevalent as far as I remember and there weren't guides for it, item re-charging via vendor was some what known but a lot of people didn't dare to try, especially with items like the puppet string

- Selling or MQing epic was definitely not prevalent

All these knowledge and expectations of each players on this server lead to what the current server is at right now, with raid mobs being tracked and kited by bard and ranger mules as soon as they spawn, npcs that drop lucrative items or quest pieces camped 24/7 etc, and honestly in my opinion changing mechanics or rules to 'satisfy players needs' would make things worse, and at worst case it would chase away so many players on the server (majority of the end game people) it would no longer be worth running the server

The game is not designed to have majority of the 1500 or so active players to have their main and alts to 60, have end game items in each slot, with all or almost all utility items, just enjoy the game as it is, or just create a bunch of Magelo profiles and drool over it, or create your own emu server where you can create toons to equip with whatever you want

[numpad]

Bannable? That's a bit extreme. I think MQ for epics should be allowed. MQ for everything else disallowed.

[ghost182]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voting no because question is too vague and I don't want rangers to be deleted from the server

harsh.