Another shaman in velious topic!

[hammertime7795]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should in your opinion sure. Should in classic, definitely not.

The ring is still the best ring for shamans outside of the Vulak+AoW ring combination. That being said the ring will be rough to obtain on this server.

Should as in on lucy it says it should only overwrite the regen slot. Its not a matter of opinion its a matter of how buff stacking works.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by hammertime7795 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Should as in on lucy it says it should only overwrite the regen slot. Its not a matter of opinion its a matter of how buff stacking works.

Yes and EQ buff stacking takes the best.

If you have Ring Clicky (10 Regen, 10 ATK, and 10 DS) and someone casts a Regrowth (15 Regen) on you... The Regrowth will overwrite (cause it's the higher regen value) the ring clicky and you lose the other benefits of the ring clicky.

I distinctly remember ring holders getting annoyed with druid regen clicky BPs in Velious and PoP cause it would overwrite their ring and prevent it from sticking until they removed regen.

Same reason when I cast Cheetah it strips my wolf form. The Runspeed on it is the same slot and better value. I lose the ATK and vision benefits of wolf form at the cost of the higher Runspeed. That's how EQ Buff stacking works.

There were weird classic examples of allowing regen stacking (see the Fungi Staff+SoW/Regen example). That is due to old buff code which we do not have working on this server. Nor is it something that would've let the 10th ring and regrowth to stack.

But I think we are in agreement on this?

Tl;dr - Ring is boss.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by hammertime7795 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ahh well they should. 10th ring is probably not worth doing as a shaman anyway

Nah. Unless you somehow get both Ring of Destruction (Avatar of War) and Crystasia's Crystal Ring (Vulak), you'll want the Coldain Ring. You'll also want the Regal Band of Bathezid if you don't have either the AoW or Vulak rings.

I've been pushing the idea of IB doing the 10th Ring War for people for a share of the item drops, so hopefully even "casuals" will be able to complete up to Ring 10.

1) Is the plane of mischief or skyshrine armor remotely realistic for someone without time to be active within a raiding guild?

Probably not but thankfully there's only 1 piece you really need, legs. Thurgadin may be the best you can get, but that's fine. Your main goal as a "casual" Shaman is to be killing Vindicator. Even if there's a long line ahead of you within your guild, with an 8 hour respawn most guilds should be able to kill him semi-often. The boots and BP are really nice.