Would PoP be considered classic if it was released before Luclin?

[harnold]

everyone is saying how luclin raiding was bad becuase of high hp/ac bosses....

So i guess that means velious raiding also sucks since thats the same exact thing

keep them at 32khp forever, i say

[Satanicmajestysrequest]

I will admit at the time I really enjoyed PoP. The plane of knowledge was extremely helpful. Looking back though, I'm not sure I like idea of the books and whatnot.

[fuark]

Originally Posted by Biaxil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, gtfo. Worst idea ever. People come here to play CLASSIC EQ, not some modern dumb down solo-quest. If you don't have the time to play, then don't. I only play when I have time. Others come here for the challenge. So don't be a selfish prick. There are countless solo-quest games out there you can go play. We don't want this one turned to shit. That's why this server was made in the first place.

Pretty much agree here. Threads like this are fun for theory questers, but by modifying the game at all away from the classic trilogy, you cheapen the project.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by mokfarg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

* Warriors could stand to have a little rework for a more natural way to obtain agro

That's easy, fix taunt so it isn't autofail on yellow/reds (live devs eventually said this was an unitended bug that wasn't looked at since kunark) and make bash's stun have similar aggro stun spells (I think this disparity may also have been a bug, I think devs mentioned it when talking about the addition of the furious bash focus, but by that time the meta of the game had evolved too far away from original eq to just fix innate aggro on bash).

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's easy, fix taunt so it isn't autofail on yellow/reds (live devs eventually said this was an unitended bug that wasn't looked at since kunark) and make bash's stun have similar aggro stun spells (I think this disparity may also have been a bug, I think devs mentioned it when talking about the addition of the furious bash focus, but by that time the meta of the game had evolved too far away from original eq to just fix innate aggro on bash).

I really have no clue why the original Devs made Agro so gimped on a Warrior. Hell they gave Rangers a Agro button. Like they NEED extra agro lol. They wanted people to group, but a Warrior was sort of the main person to be in one and they sort of suck at holding agro.

I guess maybe they wanted others in the group to have to CC?? Who knows what was in their minds? But overall they did a crazy good job with the original EQ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Danth]

I prefer explanation "B" for that one: Simple incompetence. EQ wasn't perfect, and class balance obviously wasn't the strong point of the folks who originally made this game. Least with P1999 we know where we stand, relatively, so I don't care much about it like I did historically. This time, we know what to expect in advance.

Danth

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by harnold [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everyone is saying how luclin raiding was bad becuase of high hp/ac bosses....

So i guess that means velious raiding also sucks since thats the same exact thing

keep them at 32khp forever, i say

I noticed the similarity after doing a few beta raids. Every high end fight in Velious is gonna feel like Vex Thal. Classic EQ sucks lol.

[Mandalore93]

Sorry but as I've said before Luclin and PoP are just flat out mechanically superior expansions. People just have terrible memory when influenced by nostalgia and bad recognition of correlation/causation. They do have to be given a slight pass though seeing as it would be the first time many had to deal with top end bloat and inflation. The solutions the dev team made to combat this was pretty great in my opinion.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin had it's things I disliked. Such as the whole cats on the moon concept and the bazaar. I did really like the new Beastlord class and LOVED the AA system. Some of the zones were really neat as well.

same

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Mandalore93 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry but as I've said before Luclin and PoP are just flat out mechanically superior expansions. People just have terrible memory when influenced by nostalgia and bad recognition of correlation/causation. They do have to be given a slight pass though seeing as it would be the first time many had to deal with top end bloat and inflation. The solutions the dev team made to combat this was pretty great in my opinion.

Everything you said is wrong... how is that possible without trying?