We need more than 2 huge guilds

[sealer]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once Azrael members start joining Fresh to take orders from Max it might get more interesting.

This will never happen, never will any core Azael member will take orders from that retard

Originally Posted by red99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is only 1 big guild


150 active players between fresh and holo and they raid together


az has 35 active players


there is no other guilds

AZ has 17 active players

[red99]

we have 35, but so many different time zones, often 17 or so are online , this is true.

[Colgate]

azrael very pathetic guild

[Steel Warrior]

I raid with Holocaust every day. We've teamed up with Fresh on a couple of occasions, and some of our members have helped them out on other occasions. We still fight against each other in many situations, as evidenced by Jeremy's Red99 Leaderboard. We just don't shit on each other, but we pretty much all hate Azrael.

Pretending that Holocaust and Fresh routinely raid together is pure propaganda, just like most posts from Azrael.

[bouncerr 2.0]

ya and saying suave etc are all azrael feeder guilds is bs too.

if you want the shit talking to stop maybe you should do it first.

[sealer]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

azrael very pathetic guild

No stable leadership is the problem, we have good players. We count on lite to everything and this is the problem

[heartbrand]

the problem is you have one of the two main guilds essentially saying they aren't interested in being a real Everquest guild, so is it any wonder the vast majority of people join holocaust? Azrael is very similar to how founding fathers and holocaust were in classic. Smaller guilds who considered themselves too elite to recruit. So what happened? Everyone joined the guild who always had its doors open, which was nihilum. Don't cry about mass pvp not happening when you aren't willing to be massive to have it.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by sealer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No stable leadership is the problem, we have good players. We count on lite to everything and this is the problem

you have like 3 or 4 good players, a bunch of worthless fairweather players,and then a bunch of active retards like yourself that are literally worthless

lite's horrible decision making skills are a big reason why you guys are so irrelevant, but it's not the only reason

[Colgate]

all WORTHLESS

except like deluxee, salem, and powered

[Lasher]

Ego's are the problem. Lite does not anyone else to run a guild he is in. He inhibits the possible growth of guilds he is in.

Other core members of azrael do not want to take orders or anything from anyone besides a select few.

If you want to be in a guild that can progres and compete need to check you Ego.

Also need to change your play style. The server is changing. The hardcore grief fest is a thing of the past.