The plight of the Kagatob

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know their names, but they're out there. I'd argue anyone who is transsexual has good reason to speak out against shitty societal standards and the gender binary, anyone who has been raped, anyone who has been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, and so forth.

Most importantly, and this is the part where you lose small-minded sociopaths like our neckbearded friend here, anyone that can sympathize or emapathetically relate to the unfair treatment of people unlike themselves has good reason to speak out.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, antisemitism is more an affliction or a mental illness than an idol to be worshiped, so I'd disagree with you there.

You're missing the point. Hitler was the idol. Nazism was the cult. Anti-Semitism was simply a tool to motivate those already indoctrinated.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not asking for anecdotes, ... I'm asking for specific people who have explicitly suffered due to verified systematicly oppressive systems.

Mindbendingly idiotic stuff here guys, why does anyone countenance this fool?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mindbendingly idiotic stuff here guys, why does anyone countenance this fool?

Less ad-hominem, more substance plzkthx.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know their names, but they're out there. I'd argue anyone who is transsexual has good reason to speak out against shitty societal standards and the gender binary, anyone who has been raped, anyone who has been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation, and so forth.

Everything else aside and more importantly. Why do you define these as feminist issues? These are egalitarian issues.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by DetroitVelvetSmooth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most importantly, and this is the part where you lose small-minded sociopaths like our neckbearded friend here, anyone that can sympathize or emapathetically relate to the unfair treatment of people unlike themselves has good reason to speak out.

Definitely, but there is a point at which being too vigilant or too outspoken as an ally can become problematic. As a dude, my focus should be more on giving intelligent people who actually have to deal with discrimination a platform on which they can speak and articulate themselves, rather than trying to be my own beacon of light or pretending to be some shining arbiter of feminist issues.

And I'm certainly not guiltless in that regard. I'm still figuring shit out, and I'm not ashamed to admit that.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you define these as feminist issues? These are egalitarian issues.

I suppose you could call them egalitarian issues as well as feminist issues. Or we could just call them issues, plain and simple, which can be approached from a feminist or egalitarian standpoint.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by KagatobLuvsAnimu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're missing the point. Hitler was the idol. Nazism was the cult. Anti-Semitism was simply a tool to motivate those already indoctrinated.

I kinda disagree, but that's nonetheless a fairly interesting synopsis. I see it more as antisemitism being a widely spread neurosis, and someone like Hitler coming in to take advantage of it was simply an inevitable occurrence.

I guess I don't really see antisemitism as motivational, but rather a perversion or a warping of the human psyche. Hitler was motivational.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suppose you could call them egalitarian issues as well as feminist issues. Or we could just call them issues, plain and simple, which can be approached from a feminist or egalitarian standpoint.

Ok look at it this way...
There aren't really any radical or extreme I.E. harmful egalitarian standpoints to take, yet there are a plethora of detrimental feminist standpoints. Why would you ever prefer a feminist standpoint over an egalitarian one unless you have some sort of narrative/agenda to push?

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