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[Tyym]

The difference I am seeing between the Class R guilds and the "evil" Class C guilds is the motivation. While we compete furiously with IB, there is a level of respect outside the raid scene and many of us group together or chat regularly. For us it is not about the loot. Hell a lot of the loot in VP rots or goes to alts. Its about the competition.

For the smaller guilds it is about the loot, or the completion of epics or simply working together to overcome a game obstacle. That's why it is so hard for us to understand where many of you are coming from. Personally I would like more competition up here in Class C with us. There are guilds that are ready. You just need to identify what your motivation is.

Look at IB. They were a shell of a guild for more than a year. When they decided they wanted to regain former glory, they rallied behind Hokushin and allied with Forceful Entry who was already a strong competitor against TMO. Over a short period of time, IB ranks grew with every successful encounter and now they share the top spot on the server only a year later. While I don't prefer using a competitor guild as a shining example, I suggest you guild leaders figure it out what you want and go from there.

Do you simply want loot when its your turn every few weeks out or are you ready to prove yourselves and earn the right to get the big loot the hardway and enjoy every minute of doing it that way.

Morphius 60 Enchanter - The Mystical Order
Tempyst 60 Ranger
Liquidreach 60 Cleric
Kimchi 60 Necromancer

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...or are you ready to prove yourselves and earn the right to get the big loot...

That right there is why you can only talk about one guild that you "compete" with. Most adults are not interested in "proving" anything to people on an elf sim and don't care if you think they have "the right" to loot.