End of the rotation?

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Mendo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Camping a toon at the orb means that you no longer have access to your toon and potentially can no longer play the game. I know you are just going to say "Go play some alts." What if people like their toon and would rather not play alts? They shouldn't raid then?
16 hours is a long time to not have access to your main toon. End the variance and then maybe we can talk about camping toons and losing access to them.

Not telling you to do anything, do what you want. But you won't be getting any mobs when Velious gets rid of the Classes/rotations/etc.

So at that point when Asgard dissolves and you join TMO you'll have to change your attitude.

I agree remove variance, but GMs don't want to do that because they don't want more poopsocking and we as a server haven't proven we wouldn't poopsock if that was the case.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not telling you to do anything, do what you want. But you won't be getting any mobs when Velious gets rid of the Classes/rotations/etc.

Are you under the impression that BDA will be successful in Velious? lol

[Amra]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you under the impression that BDA will be successful in Velious? lol

More successful then the guilds crying about having to kill gore by themselves...

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you under the impression that BDA will be successful in Velious? lol

Who knows. I've killed every mob in Velious tens or hundreds of times in some cases when it was considered current content - I'm not worried about being successful against the mobs themselves.

I do know the rotation was stifling our mobilization and dulling our edge. It made us lazy and people weren't taking raiding seriously enough.

[Man0warr]

So BDA's reasoning for making these tiers is to prepare smaller guilds for Velious so they don't get absorbed?

Does anyone believe that BDA is doing this for altruistic reasons and not just pixel greed?

Moreso worried about our own readiness for Velious than other guilds due to the rotation giving us excuses to mobilize slowly, not worry when unnecessary wipes happened, etc.

Outside of some Donal's BPs (which will be nerfed at launch anyways) there isn't any loot outside VP that BDA really requires, so I don't think that conclusion holds much weight.

[Man0warr]

You guys with your "Asgard = TMO alt guild" thing cracks me up.

It's RnF dude. Same thing with the "BDA = Chest Cult" meme.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Moreso worried about our own readiness for Velious than other guilds due to the rotation giving us excuses to mobilize slowly, not worry when unnecessary wipes happened, etc.

If only there was another option for a more competitive raid environment...

[Kushie]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only there was another option for a more competitive raid environment...

There really isn't another option, no guild has a way to get enough VP keys to compete with IB/TMO. Taken or BDA would be dead within a few months of non-activity.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If only there was another option for a more competitive raid environment...

Nah we can't poopsock excessively.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nah we can't poopsock excessively.

I don't understand what you think this proposal is going to do to R.