Request to make Ragefire classic

[ppdanny]

I will apologize to Indignation for me blatant flaming them on this thread. In my frustration of what has happened I went to the forums like a teenage girl having an episode. I really should have moved on and focused more to the point of this being about Ragefire mechanics and not a flame thread.

After having had some time to cool down... I don't believe I was honestly trained. I think the rogue had agro'd the giants at the entrance by accident (getting too close in range), and when they killed him it put them in range of agro'ing the rest of us near the Zordak spawn point and killed us. I should never have accused Indignation of intentionally training.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"if it did."

Even "We wouldn't do this sort of thing." would have been better than saying you'd be happy with your guildies doing this sort of thing. Like I said, it really says a lot about the spirit of the guild.

Where did I say I was happy about any of this? You refute my argument by attacking points I never make. You can stop making strawmans now, we can all see you are an idiot.

If I had my way ragefire would be a rotation, but this isn't my box. Learn to play under the current ruleset or start spamming Rogean to change the rules.

[ppdanny]

TBH a rotation won't exactly work either...

Asgard
Rampage
The Mystical Order
Azure Guard
Bregan D`Aerth
Divinity
Doljonijiarnimorinar
Europa
Indignation
Moonlight Crusaders
Omni
Taken
Anonymous

Thats 13 guilds right there, and there are probably other small off-shoots floating around like Defiance. Not to mention there are independent clerics like Renault right now who are un-guilded and are trying to get their epic as well.

That seems like a lot of cleric epics to rotate through, and I bet a lot of those guilds don't even need a cleric epic anymore. They probably just want the loot from ragefire and to sell/give MQs away to alts/twinks etc.

There needs to be some kind of system in place where clerics needing their epic get priority.

[theaetatus]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where did I say I was happy about any of this? You refute my argument by attacking points I never make. You can stop making strawmans now, we can all see you are an idiot.

Your response was 'deal with it', and some cliche about snowflakes, now followed by some ad hominem attacks.

You didn't really have an argument to refute, just a bad attitude. It might be a good idea to be a little more diplomatic in future. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P.S. I don't think a rotation would work either. The current rules work reasonably well, as most guilds at least stick to them.

[Kayak]

Originally Posted by theaetatus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well at least you didn't get your Ragefire KSd after handing in a pearl like Indignation did last week.

Were you involved in this?

And have you heard of this happening before?
It has happened to us.

- Kayak 60 Rogue <Indignation>

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by ppdanny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TBH a rotation won't exactly work either...

Asgard
Rampage
The Mystical Order
Azure Guard
Bregan D`Aerth
Divinity
Doljonijiarnimorinar
Europa
Indignation
Moonlight Crusaders
Omni
Taken
Anonymous

Thats 13 guilds right there, and there are probably other small off-shoots floating around like Defiance. Not to mention there are independent clerics like Renault right now who are un-guilded and are trying to get their epic as well.

That seems like a lot of cleric epics to rotate through, and I bet a lot of those guilds don't even need a cleric epic anymore. They probably just want the loot from ragefire and to sell/give MQs away to alts/twinks etc.

There needs to be some kind of system in place where clerics needing their epic get priority.

And now you see why my idea for a rotation sucks. People want their epics asap. There isn't a system that you can come up with that you will be able to get all parties on board with. Look at all the effort it took Argh to make Noble cycles happen. Everyone hates each other on this server. I would recommend you don't spend too much time thinking about this. Just try to enjoy this server for what it is or you will get burned out.

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...agefire&page=2

Ele already ClassicQuested that away.

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Old 10-15-2013, 12:11 PM
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1-4 day spawn that still spawns way to often.

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1-4 day spawn that still spawns way to often.

The forum admin of the eqclerics site so gloriously used as a source above agrees.

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...3&postcount=11
With a post date of mid-Velious, which I don't disagree with in the post directly above yours.

I agree he has the possibility of being able to spawn late, but he spawns religiously on this server early. There's been only a handful of times he's gone past 27 hours here and thats usually because someone didn't realize he had spawned when they logged off. I've seen him spawn while we were killing his dragon form. That ain't right. Hell, look at the quotes.

Further, in my opinion, its not a simple random number from 1-4 days, it seems to be a bell curve. Though its *possible* to be only 1 day, or all the way out to 4.5, its far more likely to be 2 or 3. I'm not enough of a geek to figure out a median and standard deviation or anything for this though. ; )

I'm not about to go on a classicquest witch hunt, but it seems the quotes about him being more reliable of a multiple day spawn were completely ignored / disregarded.

PS, WTB Maestro 12 hour respawn like classic was.

[psway]

I quit playing after I found out how contested this camp is. Totally drained all my momentum of leveling my cleric(54) up to find out I was going to have buy my Ragefire.

[Lev_Mer]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is a lot of pops....

thats a lot of $$.. lol why let people ruin the game by playing the economy in EQ.. go play WoW u morans

[Argh]

Originally Posted by psway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I quit playing after I found out how contested this camp is. Totally drained all my momentum of leveling my cleric(54) up to find out I was going to have buy my Ragefire.

Some people will let you turn in your pearl to complete your epic so long as its not being camped by a bunch of fucking savages.