Shaman race debate

[citizen1080]

I <3 my iksar shaman w/ Guise. I get to choose between sexy and sexier.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

vanity is the only thing that should matter in picking your race

polar bear hats are cool but overall i think barbs are the #2 worst looking shaman besides iksars

dude my barb shaman looks like Van Helsing... hes the mo fookn bawse

only one hyphenated word required to win the fashion argument...

eye-patch

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I challange you to show me a shaman that looks more fuckn vampire slayer than that.

ps thats not a feather hanging from my spear, thats a vampire scalp.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ogre for solo, iksar for raiding, trolls for blind people (so ugly)

Thank you. A person that knows. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Stun resist DOES matter solo whether you like it or not in Velious when fights last 4 to 5 minutes not 35 seconds like now. duh. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ezalor]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dude my barb shaman looks like Van Helsing... hes the mo fookn bawse

only one hyphenated word required to win the fashion argument...

eye-patch

i'm biased as i mained a barb shaman on live and am sick of looking at them

they're still not nearly as boring as iksar shamans though

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm biased as i mained a barb shaman on live and am sick of looking at them

they're still not nearly as boring as iksar shamans though

im hellof jellous every time I see a troll in full plate...

troll w/ de mask is a tough call from ogre with de mask.. I think i would want Ogre with De mask if i was going to have the ultimate shaman, just so you could always dangle the 'i have frontal stun' & 'i can walk through doors' & I look absolutely the most awesome as a DE.. DE shaman is unarguably the coolest looking shaman.

But damn, Trolls come pretty close! the only downside to troll is you have to wear full plate, or you look like a homeless man... which is ironically how a Ogre looks with or without full plate or full BIS gear.

[arsenalpow]

Skarry has a pretty dope troll shaman. Guise and firepot bound too. I'd still play an iksar if I was forced to play the most unfun raiding class in the game, being giant is weird. The sit animation is weird in first person.

[DrKvothe]

Loramin:

I'm trying to follow your logic, but having trouble.

Fights don't normally last that long, so can we say a minute is a reasonable average length? If so we're talking about regen Shaman having 47 more mana a fight than a non-regen Shaman. That's about 1/5 of an ice strike, or about 120 direct damage. Maybe a bit more if you use a DoT instead.

I'm assuming the shaman in question has an epic. Any shaman with epic > any shaman without epic, regardless of race, starting stats, or other gear. If you're root-rotting with an epic, 47 more mana is about half a paralyzing earth, and each paralyzing earth is 2 epic clicks long. So 47 mana is ~1300 damage, not 120. Most mobs I was trying to exp off of in my upper 50s took at least 4 epic clicks. See my response below for more details, or check blkcamel's evil shaman guide.

Theaetatus:

You're missing the point. Even if, by some miracle, you're not getting hit by anything while you break this tough camp, you're still only getting enough mana for one more slow every 5-6 minutes.

However, it is much more likely you're getting bashed and eating several extra rounds of melee while trying to get off a root or slow, negating the regen bonus entirely and actually ending up with less hp than if you had been an ogre.

Since we're talking about breaking tough rooms, we're talking about a shaman with an epic. Otherwise your mana just isn't going to hold up. The way you break such a room is to send a dog in, PE everything while they kill your puppy, then cycle through with a new PE and epic clicky then tab to next mob and repeat. If mobs are high enough lvl that they tend to break PE early, can toss in a malaisement or malosi too.

[Nycon43]

What awesome velious camps are ogre shaman going to be soloing that won't be poopsocked for months?

[Catashe]

Originally Posted by Nycon43 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What awesome velious camps are ogre shaman going to be soloing that won't be poopsocked for months?

Nothing.. and add years to that =)

[phro]

Originally Posted by Nycon43 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What awesome velious camps are ogre shaman going to be soloing that won't be poopsocked for months?

Exactly.

As an ogre you trade double your free HPs recovered in perpetuity for a slight edge on content that .01% of shaman ever attempt.

If you're committed to invest a few hundred hours on a character leveling, raiding, farming torpor and you're sole purpose for the character is to solo crazy stuff then you're one of those obsessive types where the actual leveling is the least investment in time.

Ogre fanboys, please name one mob that was soloed by an Ogre shaman that hasn't also been soloed by a troll shaman at some point.