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Old 05-17-2015, 08:00 PM
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The funny thing is: those two shitty screenshots amount to more evidence than nirgon or anyone else provided in the resist thread when haynar came around asking how resists were supposed to work in pvp.
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Old 05-17-2015, 08:01 PM
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You posted two screenshots from Sullon Zek which came out in late Velious and obviously those screenshots are further into the timeline than just Velious.

Your sample size is exactly 2 and your evidence is anecdotal. This is obviously a ploy by a person who plays a wizard to get a buff to benefit themselves. Glad the staff sees through such obvious manipulation.

Still awaiting resist logs/evidence.
there's no way to know if that's velious or Luclin in those screenshots, if it is Luclin than that's more in Favor that was unresistable because peoples geared increased

So far there has been.

1. Multiple threads of posts from that Era describing the spell as Unresistable

2. Numerous experienced PvPer's from that timeline all stating it was Unresistable.

3. Screenshots of High MR targets not resisting Shock of Lightning.

Here's two more SOL's landing on targets

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That is more Proof in Favor of it being Unresistable than denying it. At this point the Burden of Proof is on those denying it, you will have to come up with a screenshot showing it being resisted from that era. Just the fact that lvl 60's are shown regularly using the spell is common sense that it landed or why bother meming a lvl 12 spell that wouldn't land on anyone

Anyone with Common Sense would be forced to rule in favor of it indeed being unresistable in pvp (atleast as much as a lifetap or Lure was anyways)

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The funny thing is: those two shitty screenshots amount to more evidence than nirgon or anyone else provided in the resist thread when haynar came around asking how resists were supposed to work in pvp.
I know at this point it's absolutely insane, i have provided more proof that this is indeed how it works than anyone has ever provided for any previous pvp change on this server.
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Old 05-17-2015, 08:35 PM
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It wasn't unresistable in the sense that tash or malo are unresistable, so continuing to characterize it like that is just hurting your argument.

But like any pure nuke, it should be partialing vs. high resists far more often than it should be fully resisted. That's the issue, and one shared by all other pure nukes following the resist changes.

This is the result of setting resist "immunity thresholds" sourced from ol' nirnog's hazy recollections of gallivanting across Norrath in a pair of diamond rings and an SMR.
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Old 05-17-2015, 08:46 PM
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It wasn't unresistable in the sense that tash or malo are unresistable, so continuing to characterize it like that is just hurting your argument.

But like any pure nuke, it should be partialing vs. high resists far more often than it should be fully resisted. That's the issue, and one shared by all other pure nukes following the resist changes.

This is the result of setting resist "immunity thresholds" sourced from ol' nirnog's hazy recollections of gallivanting across Norrath in a pair of diamond rings and an SMR.
It was able to be partial-ed yes. It's not an argument it's a fact you could resist Shock of Lightning about as much as you resisted lure in pvp, it would partial but not fully resist until the spell was changed in planes of power.

Out of 3000+ kills on Sullon from Velious/Luclin I used Shock of Lightning about every fight and can't remember a single time I saw a resist, and no other wizard I talk to from that era can as well. Fully unresistable Like Tash or Malo NO low resist like Lure(had to have like a -300ish on it because even bards and enchanters I fought rocking full MR buffs took Sol's to the face only other spell I saw like it for my wizard was Lure)

Chaotic Feedback and Shock of Blades worked the exact same way.

Poison Bolt I thought was the same but after talking to a few necro's it was more in line with splurt for resists.
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:24 PM
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Xearo looks naked in that ss gj
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Old 05-17-2015, 09:56 PM
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Xearo looks naked in that ss gj
You still claiming anyone with mid to low MR would see 30%-40% Resists on Sol?

So either you were...

So feebly inept at PvP in Classic you didn't mem the most used spell in the Wizard's Arsenal.

OR

You lied profusely in order to get custom changes on a classic pvp mechanic?

Either way you will never again be taken seriously by a Developer in regards to your Classic PvP expertise.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:00 PM
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so you posted a screenshot of an unbuffed druid who may or may not have even been level 60 getting hit with a 17 damage shock of lightning from a player who appears to be wearing an advisor robe(further supporting the fact that he isn't level 60) and a naked player dying to a shock of lightning

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

welp, looks like it's been proven to be unresistable yowl
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:08 PM
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so you posted a screenshot of an unbuffed druid who may or may not have even been level 60 getting hit with a 17 damage shock of lightning from a player who appears to be wearing an advisor robe(further supporting the fact that he isn't level 60) and a naked player dying to a shock of lightning

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

welp, looks like it's been proven to be unresistable yowl

Did you take a hot tub time machine back to classic to play it again, NO? Then you don't belong in pvp bugs as you cannot confirm or deny any pvp mechanics from that era.

Thanks for stopping by and throwing an immature tantrum tho. I'm sure we'll all miss your worthless input on an era you never played.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:18 PM
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i played a wizard in classic through velious PvP all the way to level 60 and recall on many occasions shock of lightning being fully resisted by moderately geared players

thank you for your concern
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:22 PM
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i played a wizard in classic through velious PvP all the way to level 60 and recall on many occasions shock of lightning being fully resisted by moderately geared players

thank you for your concern
A. you didn't play classic

B. We've heard the testimony of well known Wizards from classic all say It landed like lure.

C. We've posted numerous threads of people from that era stating it landed like lure.

D. We've posted screenshots of High Mr targets with SOL landing from that era.

Sorry champ but lying ain't gonna cut it with all that proof, you got screenshots of someone resisting it?
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