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Old 05-24-2015, 12:22 PM
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Immediate problems :

'Progression' in terms of time, is based on a countdown from the point that raid targets are defeated. That's a toxic environment just brewing - it's like P99 drama 10x - the reality that some neck beards hidden away in the basement, are really affecting the evolution of your game world simply because they play a lot.

They do it while multi-boxing classes that are overpowered and not classic. Half of the raid force is just one or two guys. Nagafen is already down.

Daybreak are fucking geniuses for convincing people that this was going to work. Hell they even let them 'vote' on how it should go down, to make them think they had some hand in their own destiny.
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Old 05-24-2015, 02:10 PM
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Immediate problems :

'Progression' in terms of time, is based on a countdown from the point that raid targets are defeated. That's a toxic environment just brewing - it's like P99 drama 10x - the reality that some neck beards hidden away in the basement, are really affecting the evolution of your game world simply because they play a lot.

They do it while multi-boxing classes that are overpowered and not classic. Half of the raid force is just one or two guys. Nagafen is already down.

Daybreak are fucking geniuses for convincing people that this was going to work. Hell they even let them 'vote' on how it should go down, to make them think they had some hand in their own destiny.
So as someone part of "that raid force" it wasn't just one or two guys. It was at LEAST 3. Get your fact straight. And so what, why do you care how many hours I put in at something I love? I don't care how many hours I spend downstairs and neither does my mom so fuck you.
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Old 05-24-2015, 02:30 PM
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Pros: P99 is classic

Cons: Ragefire is not classic.
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Old 05-24-2015, 02:38 PM
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Old 05-24-2015, 03:28 PM
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So as someone part of "that raid force" it wasn't just one or two guys. It was at LEAST 3. Get your fact straight. And so what, why do you care how many hours I put in at something I love? I don't care how many hours I spend downstairs and neither does my mom so fuck you.
Cool story, "..at LEAST 3.."

Ya you're really selling it well now...


And are you retarded? Did you not read or comprehend? If you play a lot and burn down the content, that begins the progression count down. So if casual players want to stay in classic or Kunark or Velious or whatever era they are, they'll have less time to play it because YOU and your '3' boxing mage friends, spend all day playing - accelerating the process.

That was such a ridiculous idea, whomever thought of it should be shot. The only way to handle progression was use the real time line, because it's what everyone remembers and expects. The fact they have to rush through the expansions means they don't expect the server to last long.

But then again, with such awesome individuals such as yourselves, how could it die?
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:32 PM
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Cool story, "..at LEAST 3.."

Ya you're really selling it well now...


And are you retarded? Did you not read or comprehend? If you play a lot and burn down the content, that begins the progression count down. So if casual players want to stay in classic or Kunark or Velious or whatever era they are, they'll have less time to play it because YOU and your '3' boxing mage friends, spend all day playing - accelerating the process.

That was such a ridiculous idea, whomever thought of it should be shot. The only way to handle progression was use the real time line, because it's what everyone remembers and expects. The fact they have to rush through the expansions means they don't expect the server to last long.

But then again, with such awesome individuals such as yourselves, how could it die?
You're really upset about something but I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:39 PM
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:39 PM
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There is really no point in comparing. P99 is mostly 1999 game mechanics. Ragefire is current EQ mechanics with content unlocking. Nothing about Ragefire is classic but then again its a Progression server and not a classic server. If people were going to Ragefire thinking it would be like 1999 then they would be in for a rude awakening. Personally comparing 12 years of live and 4 years of P99 i've played i will stick with the P99 version as i have no interest in a "progression" server. I did however uses some of the millions of plat i still had on live to buy a Krona and secure some names so there are no imposters running around [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-24-2015, 07:44 PM
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Dude, 6 months is already too long for Kunark to come out. A full server with 4 or 5k people limited to old world content, combined with all of the new conveniences, no exp penalties, spawn with gear on death, etc is going to be bursting at the seams.

You, obviously, weren't on p99 during classic here. A lot of things hadn't been restored but it was nothing compared to how easy the new systems are. Yet with, what, 500 or 600 players peak they couldn't get kunark out fast enough.

The problem isn't boxers. And it's not neckbeards. It's that the modern game is just too easy to be limited to classic content for any significant period of time. People want to have it both ways...Not having corpse runs AND have an endless classic era and it will never work that way. Your average casual can level up with minimal adversity and will be doing just that well before the unlocks happen. And when the hoardes get to high level and butt up against each other and the awful terrible evil boxers and neckbeards we are supposed to have the torches and pitchforks out for its going to be a complete clusterfuck.

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Everyone either knows the content down to the individual spawns or, with half a brain, can find it in 5 mins on allas. To expect otherwise is skipping down the yellow brick road. And to blame other players for it is absurdly delusional.

I've got a buddy playing with me who has never played a whit of EQ and he's really getting into it. I'm hoping it will get him interested in playing here or on the pop prog server that is relatively new. Meanwhile, I'm finding all the histrionics, hand wringing, and scapegoating super entertaining. Just wait till a couple of months from now. Worth the price of admission. Anyone who has experienced with EQ over the long haul knew this would be a clusterfuck from the moment people voted for a 6 month minimum unlock.
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Old 05-25-2015, 02:12 AM
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So as someone part of "that raid force" it wasn't just one or two guys. It was at LEAST 3. Get your fact straight. And so what, why do you care how many hours I put in at something I love? I don't care how many hours I spend downstairs and neither does my mom so fuck you.
There were 16 people at their computers on a raid of 18. Not sure if the others were asleep or are boxed.
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