I apologize for DA and IB actions

[sobchak123]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...=22200&page=34



Now you're just being intellectually dishonest.

It was a stealth change that wasn't included in the original patch notes. It was edited the next day after people noticed it and complained. Nevermind the fact that this change happened one day after IB lost Vox due to DA being prepped in that area and being able to engage before them.

And no, that TT didn't path through there on live like that. That spot was a well know prep spot. That's why they said they were going to change it back.

[sobchak123]

^^^ Not like it matters anymore anyways, since apparently the developers here find it completely acceptable to lev sploit the client up the cubby and exploit pull Vox through the wall to King room.

[Pheer]

It always makes me laugh so hard how everytime this happens DA members come SCREAMING into the thread spamming conspiracy theories about other guilds/players cheating to try to distract people from the fact that their own members were caught cheating. Though when youre spamming tells to any player that dings 46 what do you really expect.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by sobchak123 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zero evidence?

LOL you seriously need to stop throwing stones at glass houses

Gwence is an officer in your guild that trains rival guilds consistently. He griefs people any chance he can get. He also 2 boxes. Why has he not been perma banned? Where's the raid suspension?

Xzerion is your guild leader and also a developer. He has used his powers as a developer in an effort to help his guild within the game. Where's the raid suspension?

You have known ShowEQ users tagged IB. Where's the raid suspension?

You've had multiple members banned for 2 boxing and using MQ in the past. Where was the raid suspension?

You have people that exploit the client to lev up into Vox's cubby and then exploit the pathing and pull her through the damn wall. (Perun) Where's the ban and raid suspension?

Gwence 2 boxes? Prove it. We've kicked out apps for two boxing w/o the GMs getting involved. To my knowledge we've had one active member of the guild in the history of this server banned for two boxing.

Xzerion changed pathing on a mob and this gives us an advantage how? Please explain how this only gives IB an advantage? Next thing you're going to cry about the PoF ring not being classic. Grow the fuck up.

We have known SEQ users? Ummm from everything I can tell it's 1 person who got in trouble for it months ago and served his time. On top of that he wasn't in our guild when that happened. You better believe that issue was scrutinized when he apped and it was made perfectly clear that if we caught wind of him doing anything of that sort again he'd be gone forever. How do I know? I was in charge of recruiting at the time. How's that for proof you fucking mudslinger?

Your guild has a history of rampantly breaking rules, training, ksing, and cheating and you're surprised by this punishment? Are you truly that dense? When we had to poopsock because you fuckers started zerg inviting people to hold multiple camps with 15+ members months ago is when all this started and here we are about to enter 2011 and DA IS STILL DOING THE SAME SHIT. You guys have an officer caught using TPP cheats two weeks ago only to have another member (Tubban) get caught with it shortly after and you don't think it's fair to punish the guild? Jesus Christ if you won't police your own members someone has to. I don't know who it was but whoever compared you guys to multiple drug offenders being hammered for getting picked up while high was spot on.

There are a ton of good people in that guild but you continually promote members into positions of leadership who train, dupe, and blatantly cheat (going far enough to be caught with proof by GMs) and yet you still want to point fingers at us?

Look I have no clue who you are and you can, and undoubtedly will, continue to bravely try and play damage control for your guild but it's the same song again and again. You guys harbor cheaters and griefers, Durison has made it a normal occurrence and it will continue. The only thing I have to say to that is stop being surprised.

[Origin]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gwence 2 boxes? Prove it. We've kicked out apps for two boxing w/o the GMs getting involved. To my knowledge we've had one active member of the guild in the history of this server banned for two boxing.

Xzerion changed pathing on a mob and this gives us an advantage how? Please explain how this only gives IB an advantage? Next thing you're going to cry about the PoF ring not being classic. Grow the fuck up.

We have known SEQ users? Ummm from everything I can tell it's 1 person who got in trouble for it months ago and served his time. On top of that he wasn't in our guild when that happened. You better believe that issue was scrutinized when he apped and it was made perfectly clear that if we caught wind of him doing anything of that sort again he'd be gone forever. How do I know? I was in charge of recruiting at the time. How's that for proof you fucking mudslinger?

Your guild has a history of rampantly breaking rules, training, ksing, and cheating and you're surprised by this punishment? Are you truly that dense? When we had to poopsock because you fuckers started zerg inviting people to hold multiple camps with 15+ members months ago is when all this started and here we are about to enter 2011 and DA IS STILL DOING THE SAME SHIT. You guys have an officer caught using TPP cheats two weeks ago only to have another member (Tubban) get caught with it shortly after and you don't think it's fair to punish the guild? Jesus Christ if you won't police your own members someone has to. I don't know who it was but whoever compared you guys to multiple drug offenders being hammered for getting picked up while high was spot on.

There are a ton of good people in that guild but you continually promote members into positions of leadership who train, dupe, and blatantly cheat (going far enough to be caught with proof by GMs) and yet you still want to point fingers at us?

Look I have no clue who you are and you can, and undoubtedly will, continue to bravely try and play damage control for your guild but it's the same song again and again. You guys harbor cheaters and griefers, Durison has made it a normal occurrence and it will continue. The only thing I have to say to that is stop being surprised.

Thread over.

[Arkanjil]

Added to my sig thanks to this thread!

[Humerox]

Never ceases to amaze me that the only people on the server that sling mud at IB are...can you guess?

And every time that particular guild gets caught up in a shitstorm, it's "But IB, but IB, but IB!"

Shit's tired and old. Time for the decent members to throw all the trash out and restructure the leadership...or gtfo, form their own guild, and regain some respect.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never ceases to amaze me that the only people on the server that sling mud at IB are...can you guess?

And every time that particular guild gets caught up in a shitstorm, it's "But IB, but IB, but IB!"

Shit's tired and old. Time for the decent members to throw all the trash out and restructure the leadership...or gtfo, form their own guild, and regain some respect.

Well as far as my opinion matters, the server would be much better without IB & DA at all. But that's called wishful thinking.

Boxing, Poop socking, Training, Cheating. That's how the raid scene turned into on this server, and it's not pretty.

[sobchak123]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gwence 2 boxes? Prove it. We've kicked out apps for two boxing w/o the GMs getting involved. To my knowledge we've had one active member of the guild in the history of this server banned for two boxing.

You've had more than one guild member banned for 2 boxing. I'm surprised you would even attempt to deny this. Ironically there are 2 that I know of that were unbanned when supposedly 2 boxing is supposed to be a lifetime ban without exception. I guess having a dev as your guild leader has it's advantages. People have been tagged in IB, raided with you, and left to join other guilds. You are aware of this right? You'd be surprised at what people actually know.

Xzerion changed pathing on a mob and this gives us an advantage how? Please explain how this only gives IB an advantage? Next thing you're going to cry about the PoF ring not being classic. Grow the fuck up.

You're a fucking noob. How the hell do you even tie your own shoes. No wonder IB has been getting completely dominated by DA this last week. Being able to prep in that room is a huge tactical advantage. You lost Vox on multiple occasions because a guild was prepped there and able to pull while you were still jerking your dicks in Everfrost. Ironic that the TT's pathing was changed to prevent this advantage the day after you lost Vox yet again.

Your guild leader is a developer, so he was able to make this change immediately after losing the raid target. If it's "not a big deal", then why the fuck is he making the change the next day after the guild he leads loses the encounter to a rival guild. Go ahead and try to rationalize that one for me Einstein.

Please explain to me how the hell a developer is blatantly leading a raid guild on this server anyways. In the early days of P99, this was not supposed to be fucking happening. Now it's like right out in the open and nobody says a damn thing. Not a peep. We're all supposed to say "Oh, that's cool. Nothing wrong with that." Are you fucking kidding me?

But like I said before it's irrelevant. Apparently the devs here find it perfectly acceptable to exploit the client in windowed mode to lev up in Vox's cubby and exploit her pathing to pull her through a fucking wall to king room now.

We have known SEQ users? Ummm from everything I can tell it's 1 person who got in trouble for it months ago and served his time. On top of that he wasn't in our guild when that happened. You better believe that issue was scrutinized when he apped and it was made perfectly clear that if we caught wind of him doing anything of that sort again he'd be gone forever. How do I know? I was in charge of recruiting at the time. How's that for proof you fucking mudslinger?

From everything you can tell? Really? So you guild this guy before you know he's using ShowEQ? He admits to it but he keeps his tag? Really? A cheater is a cheater right? As far as I'm concerned as long as this idiot holds an IB tag, you can take your fake outrage and shove it up your collective assholes. The truth is you really don't know who in your guild is doing it, has done it, and will do it in the future. It's not detectable. He admitted to using a 3rd party cheat program on these forums. He's tagged IB. The developers have taken no action against his account, I doubt they ever will, and he's still tagged IB.

Your guild has a history of rampantly breaking rules, training, ksing, and cheating and you're surprised by this punishment? Are you truly that dense? When we had to poopsock because you fuckers started zerg inviting people to hold multiple camps with 15+ members months ago is when all this started and here we are about to enter 2011 and DA IS STILL DOING THE SAME SHIT. You guys have an officer caught using TPP cheats two weeks ago only to have another member (Tubban) get caught with it shortly after and you don't think it's fair to punish the guild? Jesus Christ if you won't police your own members someone has to. I don't know who it was but whoever compared you guys to multiple drug offenders being hammered for getting picked up while high was spot on.

Your guild has a longer history of rampantly breaking rules, training, KSing, and cheating. I'm not surprised by the punishment done to DA. When Koota got caught, the punishment was justified. This on the other hand is a complete joke. Whoever was playing this Tubban account was demanding guildmates pay him for rezes, and asking for plat handouts in /gu being an obvious douchebag apparently. Something was off about his behavior, especially if you knew the original player. I'd really like the Gms to run an IP investigation to see exactly who was logging into this account, and what other accounts they have logged into from the same IP. I'd also like to see how many different IPs have actually logged into Tubban's account. Especially over the last month, and if possible check that as far back as you can within the entire accounts history and compare them. I don't really see why people even have a problem with this. If I was a GM here, I would want to know that information anyways. Wouldn't you?

I can only laugh at you claiming DA made you poopsock. Nobody made you do shit you fucking crybaby. Your petty ego made you sit there like a chump idle in the zones for months. I hope it was worth it. IB isn't exactly dominating the competition with these first to engage rules either.

Go ahead and tell me how DA leadership is supposed to be able to detect a random guild member using MQ in LGUK while the guild is sitting in SolB. Go ahead and explain that to me.

There are a ton of good people in that guild but you continually promote members into positions of leadership who train, dupe, and blatantly cheat (going far enough to be caught with proof by GMs) and yet you still want to point fingers at us?

Gwence is an officer in IB that blatantly trains rival guilds so just shut the fuck up. His account should be perma banned right now for the blatant bullshit he's been able to get away with.

Look I have no clue who you are and you can, and undoubtedly will, continue to bravely try and play damage control for your guild but it's the same song again and again. You guys harbor cheaters and griefers, Durison has made it a normal occurrence and it will continue. The only thing I have to say to that is stop being surprised.

I honestly could give a fuck about P99 anymore or any guild on this server. It's not a real EQ server. It's a sandbox. Fine. The precedent set by the GMs yesterday was laughable. I'm still waiting for another guild to be "raid suspended" because a random member of their guild broke the rules in a non raid zone like lower guk. That's the precedent that has been set. So the next time some IB mage KSs some noob at Frenzy, or trains mobs to zone that kills someone, I'll be expecting a raid suspension for a period of one week. Unless you can explain to me how leadership of any guild is supposed to be able to detect and police random members using 3rd party programs? I didn't think so.

When a developer is openly a guild leader of a major raiding guild here, all sense of fairness and impartiality goes right out the window.

[Abysis]

I don't know anything about any of this but on the bright side its free!

PvE server politics are so confusing. it's like some CIA shit. But if you really want to get your way its probably just like the real world, you give money to the right people and you get your way.

Wish there was a p99 vz/tz server with a decent population, on pvp if you got beef you kill them, if you fuck up you get corpse camped till it expires and you are forced to quit, thats my kind of justice.

Oh well guess have to stick around with all you shady bunch of freaks with fake GMs that answer to no one expect their constitutes it seems. You really have to be a real wack job to play eqEMU. I know i am. I mean if you are a hardcore MMO player in general your a wack job, don't try to deny it or else your making it worse. I don't care what you do outside of this it doesn't make it any better.