TMO declared dead on Red99.

[Stasis01]

Couldn't take the heat for a few months and that wasn't even that bad - they never contested once.

The great big bad TMO, we won blue were so good blah blah.

Not impressed.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couldn't take the heat for a few months and that wasn't even that bad - they never contested once.

The great big bad TMO, we won blue were so good blah blah.

Not impressed.

A lot of people, including you, couldn't take the heat when losing either. Instead of quitting though, you just joined the opposition and talked trash about anyone else trying to contest. This is a trend that pretty much all VZTZers and past box "legends" follow. I woudl really like to know how those smaller population boxes with hacks and shit running rampant had more competition than the anti-hax 300 pop box we have here. What was their secret? Are most vets just burnt out on pvp and just want to raid?

[Kaahbal]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of people, including you, couldn't take the heat when losing either. Instead of quitting though, you just joined the opposition and talked trash about anyone else trying to contest. This is a trend that pretty much all VZTZers and past box "legends" follow. I woudl really like to know how those smaller population boxes with hacks and shit running rampant had more competition than the anti-hax 300 pop box we have here. What was their secret? Are most vets just burnt out on pvp and just want to raid?

Most of active leaders in VZTZ started playing together but split up pretty early and then the different cores of guild managements kept solid through entire VZTZ with wildcards guilds at times like Salty and his <Fish Bait> And Searyx and his <Tallon Zek Times>.

There was also a healthy level of small crews rolling around, and the fact that people could twobox if they wanted to made guilds only having to recruit a solid 15-20 people total since that would equal 30-40.

Bottom line guild cores never bent over and joined the opposition. And there was never ever one guild that would control an entire repopcycle. Every single raidtarget was PVP'd for.

Thats the problem here. People get discouraged if they lose once, and neckbeards only follow the loot.

I have still never understod why Empire claim that Lite made them go all Nihilum on things, in my eyes Lite has always been a weak character without any leadership qualities.