Spells: Song of Twilight duration is incorrect

[worch]

The lvl 53 bard spell, Song of Twilight, should have a duration of 5 ticks. Currently the duration is 3 ticks.

From https://web.archive.org/web/20020613...gs.asp?song=63 :

Max Duration: 5 ticks

5/15/01 1:01:44 PM
~ Jairren

SoT lasts longer than other bard songs - 5 ticks, not 3.

From https://web.archive.org/web/20011211...des/guide1.asp :

Tuesday, December 11, 2001

It’s not at all uncommon a sight to see a bard standing in the middle of a bunch of mesmerized mobs playing a lute while the group picks each one off one at a time. I’ve successfully mesmerized 11 mobs at the same time with a lute equipped

To mez 11 mobs, the duration would need to be at least 5 ticks (it has a 3 second cast).

[evilkorn]

NOVEMBER 15, 2000

Song of Twilight: Increased duration. Made less resistible by removing the secondary resist. Allowed it to be cast at any time of day.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20001115.html

Strange part is spdat lists it as 3 ticks.

Also EQdiva : https://web.archive.org/web/20010422...gs.asp?song=57

Max Duration: 3 ticks

Maybe this is a luclin/late velious update and end of kunark bumped it up to 3 ticks.

[worch]

Originally Posted by evilkorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strange part is spdat lists it as 3 ticks.

Interesting. I'm not familiar with eq's client-server model and how spdat factors in, but could it be the case that the server actually determined the duration, while the spdat was simply a client-side value that was superceded by the server's behavior?

[worch]

Originally Posted by worch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From https://web.archive.org/web/20011211...des/guide1.asp :

To mez 11 mobs, the duration would need to be at least 5 ticks (it has a 3 second cast).

archive.org has this same guide in March 2001, actually (archive.org newb here, just started using it today). So here's this same quote from March 2001, 9 months earlier. https://web.archive.org/web/20010304...des/guide1.asp :

Sunday, March 04, 2001

It’s not at all uncommon a sight to see a bard standing in the middle of a bunch of mesmerized mobs playing a lute while the group picks each one off one at a time. I’ve successfully mesmerized 11 mobs at the same time with a lute equipped.

[evilkorn]

I think that guy is referring to Kelin's Lucid Lullaby, which is a PBAOE stringed song that lasts for 1 tick. He says playing a lute while Song of Twilight is a wind song.

[worch]

Originally Posted by evilkorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that guy is referring to Kelin's Lucid Lullaby, which is a PBAOE stringed song that lasts for 1 tick. He says playing a lute while Song of Twilight is a wind song.

Good catch. That makes sense. Even mezzing 11 mobs would be a stretch with a 5 tick duration, but it's completely doable with Kelin's Lucid Lullaby.

[worch]

Originally Posted by evilkorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NOVEMBER 15, 2000

Song of Twilight: Increased duration. Made less resistible by removing the secondary resist. Allowed it to be cast at any time of day.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20001115.html

Strange part is spdat lists it as 3 ticks.

Do we have the spdat's archived somewhere? I'd be interested to see it before and after this November 15, 2000 patch.

[ezri]

Originally Posted by worch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good catch. That makes sense. Even mezzing 11 mobs would be a stretch with a 5 tick duration, but it's completely doable with Kelin's Lucid Lullaby.

Doesn't Kelin's Lucid Lullaby max out at about lv30? No way this can be done at higher end game levels.

[Treats]

Song of Twilight is 3 ticks in the spdat, no idea.

Song of Twilight
Stun
Decrease Magic Resist from 14 (L53) to 16 (L60)


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Classes: Brd (L53)

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Range to Target: 100 feet
Pushes Target Back: 4 feet

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Song requires a Flute

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Skill: Wind Instruments
Allowable Targets: All

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Resistance Check: Magic

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Spell Duration: 3 ticks (18 seconds)
Duration Formula: 7
Casting Time: 3.0 seconds

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When you cast: You play the music of twilight.
Spell cast on you: You hear the music of twilight.
Spell cast on someone: Soandso stumbles toward you.

[ezri]

Originally Posted by Treats [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Song of Twilight is 3 ticks in the spdat, no idea.

It also says that Instrument is required to play, which it doesn't.