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[Gustoo]

There are a lot of people on blue server and I talked to some of them and they are having a fun time, but these are probably not raiding players.

Word on the streets is that seeing /ooc on red makes people throw up and quit instantly. Maybe a good idea to implement the regional OOC or standard classic EQ ooc system.

Just speculating here.

[DRAGONBAIT]

plz make a grp channel where only LFGs are allowed and thats it.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by DRAGONBAIT [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

plz make a grp channel where only LFGs are allowed and thats it.

there are no flaws in that plan.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a lot of people on blue server and I talked to some of them and they are having a fun time, but these are probably not raiding players.

Word on the streets is that seeing /ooc on red makes people throw up and quit instantly. Maybe a good idea to implement the regional OOC or standard classic EQ ooc system.

Just speculating here.

I fully agree. People will respond to this by saying those who don't like OOC should just put it in a separate window and minimize it. That does not, in fact, solve the problem. The problem is that OOC gives people a very negative impression of what people are like on Red. Most people don't want to play on a server that contains some of these OOC garbage talkers. Plus, seeing people act like jerks in OOC gives other players permission to act like jerks as well. It reinforces itself. Finding a way to separate out the garbage or perhaps eliminate a completely global chat channel would allow Red to become a better place.

[quido]

people are still going to act like jerks

[Tiewon Shu]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fully agree. People will respond to this by saying those who don't like OOC should just put it in a separate window and minimize it. That does not, in fact, solve the problem. The problem is that OOC gives people a very negative impression of what people are like on Red. Most people don't want to play on a server that contains some of these OOC garbage talkers. Plus, seeing people act like jerks in OOC gives other players permission to act like jerks as well. It reinforces itself. Finding a way to separate out the garbage or perhaps eliminate a completely global chat channel would allow Red to become a better place.

No offense, but your way is like trying to cure an epidemic by hiding all the infected.

Eliminating global chat or making the OOC "LFG only" does not solve the problem. You will still have the same toxic people in your community. If you want to cure a disease you need to treat it at the source. The solution is to outcast and shun the players that make Red an undesirable box to play. Once they are off your server, you can commence having a nice OOC chat box.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fully agree. People will respond to this by saying those who don't like OOC should just put it in a separate window and minimize it. That does not, in fact, solve the problem. The problem is that OOC gives people a very negative impression of what people are like on Red. Most people don't want to play on a server that contains some of these OOC garbage talkers. Plus, seeing people act like jerks in OOC gives other players permission to act like jerks as well. It reinforces itself. Finding a way to separate out the garbage or perhaps eliminate a completely global chat channel would allow Red to become a better place.

[grannock]

Originally Posted by Videri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I fully agree. People will respond to this by saying those who don't like OOC should just put it in a separate window and minimize it. That does not, in fact, solve the problem. The problem is that OOC gives people a very negative impression of what people are like on Red. Most people don't want to play on a server that contains some of these OOC garbage talkers. Plus, seeing people act like jerks in OOC gives other players permission to act like jerks as well. It reinforces itself. Finding a way to separate out the garbage or perhaps eliminate a completely global chat channel would allow Red to become a better place.

Tala maybe you should talk to Slathar then? Dude spends 6 hours a day spaming ooc with jibberish in an attempt to troll people. It really doesnt help the server to spread lies and try and accuse people of all kinds of shit, when newer players to the server might not realize hes just a drunk troll looking for laughs.

The reality is that 99% of what you see in ooc and read on the forums is bullshit but it takes most new people to the community months to figure out, and some get overwhelmed and just leave before it gets to that point.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by grannock [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tala maybe you should talk to Slathar then? Dude spends 6 hours a day spaming ooc with jibberish in an attempt to troll people. It really doesnt help the server to spread lies and try and accuse people of all kinds of shit, when newer players to the server might not realize hes just a drunk troll looking for laughs.

The reality is that 99% of what you see in ooc and read on the forums is bullshit but it takes most new people to the community months to figure out, and some get overwhelmed and just leave before it gets to that point.

Have you ever talked with Slathar? I wish you could chat with him in Teamspeak for 15 minutes. I thought Slathar was a dangerous lunatic until I was guilded with him in <Good Guys>. He is hilarious, thoughtful, conscientious, and brilliant. He cracks me up all the time. Interesting that what he says actually bothers you. I'm curious to find out if people feel the same way about Engleburt, Farzo, and Fandango/Shydagger. If so, maybe it's all in the perspective we have depending on our relationship to these people.

I think the main problem people in OOC are the ones who insult each other after PvP, calling each other bad and accusing each other of plugging, hacking, griefing, etc. That kind of message makes PvP scary and uncomfortable instead of fun and exciting. I wish you could just win or just lose, but if you lose people sometimes say things to discourage you and if you win people might say things to try to invalidate your victory. I guess one has to build the inner strength to push through this.

[Smedy]

i enjoy reading ooc after a yellow text or something like that but people spewing garbage should be #banban