Game Mechanics: Bladestopper Using Reagents

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Instant clickies shouldn't use reagents at all.

[Daldaen]

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[Daldaen]

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[nilbog]

The underlying issue is the current method of allowing an instant click item to not use reagents.. is to make a new spell id that doesn't use components. Then, changing the clickeffect of the item to the non-component spell.

This is why some of the items function as intended, and some do not. Long long ago I made those changes for the mage ring, waterstone, and mystic cloak.

With that said, spell ids come at a premium. I believe the cap for spellids in spells_new for Titanium is 9999. I'm not totally sure what would happen if we exceeded it, but it would likely involve cthulu. I do not believe we should create a new spellid for each instance of this.

I will confer with the other developers and see if they have another idea.

The following is a list of items with instant clicks where the click effect is a spell which normally requires components. Please review this list and see which, if any, do not belong.

select i.id, i.name, i.casttime, i.casttime_, i.clickeffect, sn.name,  sn.components1, i2.name 
from items i 
join spells_new sn on (sn.id =  i.clickeffect) 
join items i2 on (i2.id = sn.components1) 
where  i.casttime <= '0' and i.clickeffect > '0' and sn.components1 >=  '0'

id    name    casttime    casttime_    clickeffect    name1    components1    name2       
1400    Moss Mask    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
1593    Sacred Runed Jasper    0    0    261    Levitate    13068    Bat Wing       
1846    Staff of Beta Corpse Summon    0    0    3    Summon Corpse    17355    Jade Inlaid Coffin       
2703    Griffon Wing Spauldors    0    0    261    Levitate    13068    Bat Wing       
2709    Rotted Griffon-Hide Wrist Guard    0    0    261    Levitate    13068    Bat Wing       
3393    Shell Trimmed Bracer    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
3846    Black Feathered Circlet    0    0    261    Levitate    13068    Bat Wing       
5126    Hero's Khukri    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
5128    Lord of Pain's Khukri    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
5377    Deep Six Cutlass    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
5738    Crypt Master`s Conjuring Stone    0    0    1773    Conjure Corpse    9962    Tiny Jade Inlaid Coffin       
7027    Kerran Fishing Spear    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
7319    Riptide Spear    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
8443    Bag of Bone Dust    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
10377    Wand of Shadow    0    0    494    Invoke Shadow    13073    Bone Chips       
11099    Akkirus Aego Buffer    0    0    1447    Aegolism    10028    Peridot       
11151    Lightning Earring    0    0    635    Greater Conjuration: Air    10015    Malachite       
11152    Fiery Earring    0    0    634    Greater Conjuration: Fire    10015    Malachite       
11605    White Dragon Tooth    0    0    443    Invoke Death    13073    Bone Chips       
11627    Red Dragon Tooth    0    0    443    Invoke Death    13073    Bone Chips       
11632    Bladestopper    0    0    484    Rune IV    10028    Peridot       
11686    Solidate Mithril Ring    0    0    393    Steelskin    10020    Jasper       
11688    Rod of Warding Winds    0    0    483    Rune III    10020    Jasper       
13251    Giant Fire Beetle Eye    0    0    667    Enchant Silver    16500    Silver Bar       
13745    Enlarged Fire Beetle Eye    0    0    667    Enchant Silver    16500    Silver Bar       
14177    5 Dose Potion of Vox's Vitality    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
14302    Vial of Egg Whites    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
14304    Brazier of Elemental Summoning    0    0    403    Elemental: Fire    10016    Lapis Lazuli       
14396    10 Dose Potion of Vox's Vitality    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
14517    Fish Gill Extract    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
14556    Amulet of Planar Transference    0    0    674    Alter Plane: Sky    10094    Cloudy Stone of Veeshan       
15982    Mystic Brooch    0    0    393    Steelskin    10020    Jasper       
16461    Potion of Vox's Vitality    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
16873    Aqualung    0    0    478    Breath of the Dead    13076    Fish Scales       
21603    Deeppocket Hollow Staff    0    0    1777    Conceal Rapier    21602    Deeppocket Rapier       
21607    Imbued Deeppocket Traveling Staff    0    0    1782    Unconceal Rapier    21607    Imbued Deeppocket Traveling Staff       
24737    Drums of the Beast    0    0    86    Enduring Breath    13076    Fish Scales       
27710    Amulet of the Void    0    0    674    Alter Plane: Sky    10094    Cloudy Stone of Veeshan       
27711    Rod of the Protecting Winds    0    0    483    Rune III    10020    Jasper       
27712    Bloody Griffon-Hide Wrist Guard    0    0    261    Levitate    13068    Bat Wing       
29050    Dragon Tooth Choker    0    0    236    Shieldskin    10026    Cat's Eye Agate       
59715    Orb of Transmutation    0    0    4350    Transmute Hunter's Dagger    59740    Purified Crystal

[Ele]

1x Akkrius Aego Buffer plz.

Would love you forever.

[Thulack]

I want to say the Enlarged Fire Beetle eye should probably always require the silver bar to make a enchanted bar.

[Daldaen]

11099 Akkirus Aego Buffer 0 0 1447 Aegolism 10028 Peridot
11151 Lightning Earring 0 0 635 Greater Conjuration: Air 10015 Malachite
11152 Fiery Earring 0 0 634 Greater Conjuration: Fire 10015 Malachite
13745 Enlarged Fire Beetle Eye 0 0 667 Enchant Silver 16500 Silver Bar
15982 Mystic Brooch 0 0 393 Steelskin 10020 Jasper
21603 Deeppocket Hollow Staff 0 0 1777 Conceal Rapier 21602 Deeppocket Rapier
21607 Imbued Deeppocket Traveling Staff 0 0 1782 Unconceal Rapier 21607 Imbued Deeppocket Traveling Staff
59715 Orb of Transmutation 0 0 4350 Transmute Hunter's Dagger 59740 Purified Crystal

These are all GM items or out of era items we won't see. So they won't need to be included in any changes made.

I'm not seeing TOO many spells there.

Enduring Breath is like half of them
Levitate
Shieldskin/Steelskin/Rune III/Rune IV
12 Fire Pet summon
34 Necro pet summon
49 Necro pet summon
Conjure Corpse
Alter Sky Plane

Looks like 11 spells of which 3 are already done (EB, Lev, Steelskin).

If code devs have an idea around this that would be great, if not I don't think the spell file is so loaded it couldn't handle an additional 8 spells.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think the spell file is so loaded it couldn't handle an additional 8 spells.

It's more a matter of principle. This obviously wasn't how it was done on live, or each of these would have duplicates in the spell data.


Fixed, pending update

Crypt Master's Conjuring Stone was not included -> http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...04913268460797

[heartbrand]

so no recharging on Red non classic fix to non existent issue but regeants being removed on blue clickies? am I understanding this correctly?

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's more a matter of principle. This obviously wasn't how it was done on live, or each of these would have duplicates in the spell data.


Fixed, pending update

Crypt Master's Conjuring Stone was not included -> http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...04913268460797

Nilbog, I believe you should include the Conjuring Stone also. The link you provided is a 2003 quote. On the same page, October 2001 (right after Chardok revamp and this started dropping):

You don't need to coffin. I just used one on my best friend when he fell off the boat and drown in the middle of nowhere without the corpse loc.

Good Luck, and Safe Hunting!

I think within our timeline (October-December 2001) it is unlikely they changed this to require a reagent.

Good fix for the rest though!

@Heartbrand your server plays custom99. You all wanted modifications to remove PvP imbalances, your item recharging happened to get whacked in the process. Feel free to roll on blue if you want more classic EQ mechanics.