Loughner declined from the army, but passed a background check to buy a gun?

[Occam's Butter Knife]

Originally Posted by Seeatee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what happened in AZ is terrible and a huge tragedy and unimaginable loss, that being said you can not take away peoples rights to own guns because of the few whackos on the fringe who can not play nice - if this guy didnt have access to a gun maybe he would have built a bomb, or drove a car into the crowd if he was so motived and wanted to hurt this person he would have found a way gun or no gun.

what we do need is deeper background checks and stricter screening processes saying who can and can not get a gun.

as it is right now, not so many people carry guns.

lets say you are a robber, you are walking down the street and find a nice juicy victim, as it is right now, the odds are a solid 99% chance they do not have a gun, you will rob them and get away no problem.

now lets say half of all people had guns - not just the bad guys but half of all people own a gun and carry it.

again you are a robber and your walking down the street and see a guy leaving the ATM, you still going to rob him knowing there is a 50% chance if you do, you are going to get shot in the face?

how many guys would rape women if they know there is a 50% chance if they do, they are getting a hot lead injection to the dome?

and to end my thoughts, one of my all time favorite quotes.

"If you outlaw guns, then only outlaws will have guns"

That's the fantasy the reality is that most gun owners who shoot someone do so in a fit of anger (pick your own volatile emotion) not self defense. Accidents make up another good portion. Found this article while looking for the FBI pie chart but this shows the same point more starkly.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...H_GRAPHIC.html

The percentage of people owning guns has declined since the 1980's yet so has the number of violent crimes. Gun ownership in Columbia is higher than in the US, yet the number of deaths due to violent crimes is much higher. This does not support the current NRA talking points tossed into this thread.