The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread

[falkun]

Your raid location is not our problem when we did not train over you. By your logic, you expect us to train Ikatair BACK to his room, and drop aggro there. NO ONE does this. The best ANYONE does is let a mob reset. Well guess what BDA was doing? Letting a mob reset. It is not BDA's fault that YOUR raid was in the way of a mob resetting. Also, if Elament had stayed in the cubby, he would not have aggroed Ikatair. It is not BDA's fault YOUR PULLER aggroed Ikatair and brought him to camp when your raid was ill prepared to engage him.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by JboxCSU [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of it this way -
Scenario 1 - Guild A pulls a mobs all the way the fuck across a zone. My thought is they own that train as the mob(s) return to their spawn point.

Scenario 2 - Guild A pulls mob halfway across the zone, Guild B tags it and drops it off all the way across the zone. In this case, Guild B the mob from where they tagged the mob to the zone line, and Guild A owns it from their loss of aggro to the mobs spawn.

Scenario 3 - Guild A pulls a mob all the way across the zone, drops aggro and the mob starts walking back. Guild B attempts to split, and drags the mobs slightly off course of their return path, and drops aggro. In this case, Guild B owns the train from the mobs patching back to where they snagged aggro from the mobs. Guild A takes the train back when the mobs start walking back on their original path.

This situation is Scenario 3. That fucking train was walking down that path whether or not BDA attempted the split or not.

My opinion it's Takens train.

your opinion would be correct if BDA hadn't attempted to peel from takens pull, since BDA has admitted they wanted to split out iki, they knowingly took responsibility for the train. You cant say it would have been takens fault if BDA hadn't touched it so its takens fault after BDA touched it....

[Maner]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your raid location is not our problem when we did not train over you. By your logic, you expect us to train Ikatair BACK to his room, and drop aggro there. NO ONE does this. The best ANYONE does is let a mob reset. Well guess what BDA was doing? Letting a mob reset. It is not BDA's fault that YOUR raid was in the way of a mob resetting. Also, if Elament had stayed in the cubby, he would not have aggroed Ikatair. It is not BDA's fault YOUR PULLER aggroed Ikatair and brought him to camp when your raid was ill prepared to engage him.

so mages are pullers now?

[falkun]

How can you say its BDA's fault after Taken touched it and also not conclude its Forgard's fault after BDA touched it?

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so mages are pullers now?

Its EQ, anyone's a puller that gets FTE.

[JboxCSU]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

your opinion would be correct if BDA hadn't attempted to peel from takens pull, since BDA has admitted they wanted to split out iki, they knowingly took responsibility for the train. You cant say it would have been takens fault if BDA hadn't touched it so its takens fault after BDA touched it....

If BDA tried to split, they own tje train from where they took aggro to where they dropped it.

Again, If BDA didn't attempt to split, all those mobs were going to take that path anyways.

[falkun]

And mages make fantastic pullers. TMO used them to great effect when the rules dictated no PC could be on 1.5 to pull nobles. Send a mage pet up to noble and there's not a PC on the island!

[jcr4990]

So lemme get this straight. Taken pulls mob across zone. BDA tries to pull as its pathing back and fails. Forsaken pulls unintentionally as its pathing back and wipes. God damn BDA's fault again!

Makes a lot of sense dude. You totally aren't making yourself look like a fool. Please keep posting.

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[Zampini]

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[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so mages are pullers now?

I used to FTE in VP on a chanter.

So yes, mages are pullers.