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Old 01-19-2011, 03:32 PM
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Pretty much any way you simulate patch day repops would be more classic than it is now. I would honestly prefer you remove variance, and do a simulated patch day 0-3 times per week, either in the morning, afternoon, or middle of the night, without notice(since, as you put it, having a patch without the server coming down is not quite fair). Even that, right there, is more accurate to classic than what we have now.

I can't imagine DA and IB would agree with this as well, as they are only set to gain from this, and get more sleep.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:01 PM
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"All mobs will be respawning between 2 and 5 PM EST"...

Seems like kind of a cheat.

Then you don't actually have the downtime.. so people are on the server already, have been killing mobs.. waiting for the random respawn.. hell I bet you raiding guilds would already select out the first target they want and be poopsocking the hell out of it. And in the case of Dark Ascension with their bajillion strong raid force, they would most likely have split their raid force and be poop socking multiple raid mobs.

It wouldn't work out as well as you guys think it would.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:51 PM
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Pretty much any way you simulate patch day repops would be more classic than it is now. I would honestly prefer you remove variance, and do a simulated patch day 0-3 times per week, either in the morning, afternoon, or middle of the night, without notice(since, as you put it, having a patch without the server coming down is not quite fair). Even that, right there, is more accurate to classic than what we have now.

I can't imagine DA and IB would agree with this as well, as they are only set to gain from this, and get more sleep.
What's the point? Unless we make a community-wide accepted rotation on raid encounters, there will always be DA/IB there to poop sock and zerg it, despite whether the Mobs are refreshed by a "patch day" or not. It does not give anyone else other than zerg guilds more chance at loot, so why bother?
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:54 PM
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What's the point? Unless we make a community-wide accepted rotation on raid encounters, there will always be DA/IB there to poop sock and zerg it, despite whether the Mobs are refreshed by a "patch day" or not. It does not give anyone else other than zerg guilds more chance at loot, so why bother?
I think you missed tha part about no guild being able to take out 6+ targets at once. The point is letting other people on the server try and relive their past EQ experiences. The point is all the bosses are never up at the same time with the way the server is currently implemented.

You missed the point.
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What's the point? Unless we make a community-wide accepted rotation on raid encounters, there will always be DA/IB there to poop sock and zerg it, despite whether the Mobs are refreshed by a "patch day" or not. It does not give anyone else other than zerg guilds more chance at loot, so why bother?
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:57 PM
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simulated patch days with variance is the way to go. trust me.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:47 PM
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1. changes the server MOTD to some text similar to "Fake Patch Day Tomorrow - Not really a patch, we're just respawning the raid mobs, haha"
Anything more than a fifteen minute warning guarantees that IB and DA will dominate the competition. Dragons die quickly, planar raid targets are untouchable for fifteen minutes to 2 hours. Give either guild time to prep for the dragon kill and they will be through with it in time to (out-)compete with the other guilds rushing through Hate and Fear.

Random, unannounced server-wide respawns of raid content still sound really great to me.
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Old 01-19-2011, 10:51 PM
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Anything more than a fifteen minute warning guarantees that IB and DA will dominate the competition. Dragons die quickly, planar raid targets are untouchable for fifteen minutes to 2 hours. Give either guild time to prep for the dragon kill and they will be through with it in time to (out-)compete with the other guilds rushing through Hate and Fear.

Random, unannounced server-wide respawns of raid content still sound really great to me.
Practice clearing trash mobs faster. Make an alliance with another guild to steamroll through the trash faster. If IB or DA or anyone else can clear ice giants, kill vox, res up, assign the loot, teleport to hate, and still beat you to Innoruuk, then I say you don't deserve Inny's loot. Also, while IB was doing Vox... someone ELSE got Nagafen.

There are still some weeks right now when one guild gets all, or all but one of the raid bosses. That wouldn't happen with the system I proposed unless all the other guilds let it happen.

All of that said... I wouldn't mind if the script sometimes just left out the announcement part to simulate emergency patches. However, the notice helps casuals WAY more than it helps IB/DA. They have trackers. They know when mobs are due anyway. It's the guilds who haven't been gathering intelligence who don't know when to expect the pops.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:13 PM
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I think we should stick with the argument that simulated patch days makes it more classic, promotes racing to targets like in classic, and allows people to sleep instead of poopsock (not classic). Not that it makes it easier for the guilds who don't put in the time to track.


When the database froze up a couple months ago or whatever and all the mobs repopped, DA/IB still got 90% of the targets, but it was a helluva lot more fun than the turdfest we have going on right now.
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Old 01-19-2011, 11:17 PM
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Not that it makes it easier for the guilds who don't put in the time to track.
Well, that's not really the big selling point for me either, but when someone asserts that it is the other way without backing it up, I have to respond.
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