If you believe in Atheism, you're an idiot... - Page 7

Saskrotch · #61 01-19-2011, 11:18 PM

zenoo · #62 01-20-2011, 03:10 AM

Oh nos someone who is bad at semantics found a video on youtube and turned me into an atheist, nooooooooo

Toehammer · #63 01-20-2011, 04:56 AM

Lots of people misunderstand evolution, creationism, and the big bang.

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Actually the correct science is Anthropology. Although "monkey" is a very general term, the answer to that question is yes. Modern day humans evolved from x which evolved from y which evolved from z which evolved from a primate you would consider a mix between a monkey and a shrew if you observed it.

This is sort of the basic idea of evolution. Think of it as a tree... some common root... but it branches out exponentially... those branches can cross with each other (interbreeding). I understand what you are getting at, however the statement that we came from monkeys is much more clear (read: correct) if you say, "humans/monkeys have a common ancestor" just like branches have common roots. People need to stop linearizing evolution.

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Yeah some provable theory crackpot scientists cooked up is just as credible as the primitive idea that the invisible sky man made our species from mud.

All theories are cooked up... that is the point.

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I'm saying that neither creationism or the big bang theory make any sense .Either way you are taking a ginormous leap in logic.

Although I agree with your statement, in general it is sort of odd to put these two theories next to each other. I personally have no problem with either idea; both equally cool/fascinating. However big bang does not really discuss creation... it discusses what happens after the universe is created.

People confuse what the big bang actually is, and the theory is fairly well accepted among the general populace because it is somewhat logical to say, "huge explosion of matter(/antimatter), matter attracts other matter (yo gravity!), and complexity emerges". However nothing was actually created. It is generally accepted among physicists that you cannot really create or destroy matter... or energy... same thing.

As a physicist, it is interesting to observe these arguments from both sides. Neither side has very firm ground to stand on. Both are huge leaps of faith. Evolution has actually been observed... creation/big bang are impossible to observe. Although evolution/creation/big bang are somewhat related, it is comparing apples to oranges to bananas.

This is what I believe... everything evolves, short and long term. Think about it... we are all dead stars, and hydrogen has evolved to the point where it can think about itself. Now that is impressive.

maegi · #64 01-20-2011, 08:10 PM

wallaker willjams > ottertodd's jackalware

Humerox · #65 01-21-2011, 02:15 AM

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LOTSA GOOD STUFF

Yup. Couldn't agree with you more.

Thinking outside the box.

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bled12345 · #66 01-23-2011, 05:53 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_...ound_radiation

proof the big bang happened, Science is just the darndest thing.

I'm a through and through atheist.... Is this thread for real? lolz

soup · #67 01-23-2011, 06:01 PM

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You guys really think that atheists don't need to justify their belief? How about the theist who says, I don't state a belief in God, I just believe that the universe wasn't created through a purely physical process which can be explained by Newtonian science (Implies nonphysical cause).

I'm also not sure why some people want to soften their definition of atheism. If you don't believe in God you are an atheist, if you believe in God you are a theist, if you are unsure but think there is an answer, but it may not be knowable by man at this point then you are agnostic. It is that simple. If you "just don't care" or "don't want to think about it" then you really don't get any of the terms you are just an apathetic moron. That would be like asking if my pet turtle was an atheist or an agnostic.

This isn't entirely correct. "Atheist" and "agnostic" aren't mutually exclusive. Atheism simply means a lack of belief in god(s), it does not necessarily imply an active disbelief in the lack of existence of god(s). Most people struggle with understanding that subtle, but very important difference. Just because you lack a belief in something does not mean you possess a belief that it does not exist.

Harrison · #68 01-23-2011, 06:10 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_...ound_radiation

proof the big bang happened, Science is just the darndest thing.

I'm a through and through atheist.... Is this thread for real? lolz

There used to be "proof" that the Earth was flat, too. What about a Geocentric solar system? lawl

soup · #69 01-23-2011, 06:10 PM

It's also worth noting everyone is an atheist to some extent. For example, if you're a Christian, that means you're an atheist in regard to hundreds of other gods that have been worshiped throughout human history (this is being pretty loose with the semantics, but that doesn't change anything in regard to the truth of the premise.)

soup · #70 01-23-2011, 06:12 PM

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There used to be "proof" that the Earth was flat, too. What about a Geocentric solar system? lawl

Too bad it was society that accepted the flat earth, not science.

Or are you going to try and tell me that society at that time was focused on science? rofl