If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[quellren]

Some random thoughts from my dirty, evil, atheist mind:

Why is it socially acceptable for people to come to my front door and tell me about their religious views in an effort to convert me, yet if I went to someone's door with a biology book and a pamphlet on atheism, I'd have the police called on me?

If the earth is 6 thousand-odd years old like the Bible claims, why have dinosaurs and plants turned into oil, but dead people are still skeletons? Why aren't Egyptian Kings gooey blobs in their tombs? They're both about the same age.

[Beauregard]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best part of this is that psychology is misspelled. If you're going to be a condescending dick, at least catch up on junior high vocabulary.

There are a lot of very intelligent atheists. None of them have posted in this thread.

I find it interesting that nobody will address this point: many atheists claim they do not believe in God because there is no scientific evidence of any God's existence. At the same time, many atheists do believe in extraterrestrial life. My question is why? What's the difference? There is absolutely no scientific evidence of extraterrestrial life at this point in time. It's entirely theoretical. It's a belief. How can you condemn one, while subscribing to another? Do you take a scientific approach to these kind of questions, or not?

And as a side-note, the belief in God is far more logical and necessary than a belief in extraterrestrial life. As far as Man can comprehend the Universe, everything has a beginning. Everything was created, at some point or another. God is a logical extension of this. Something has to have been eternal. Whether it was a pair of atoms or a sentient Creator, it's so far beyond our grasp that it's ridiculous for any one person to act certain in one way or the other. When you talk about "all evidence" pointing against a God, you just sound ignorant. There is no evidence. On the other hand, it's very easy to imagine other planets devoid of life -- we've already found many of them. There's no evidence of life anywhere else, and there never has been. It's possible that there's life throughout the universe, but there's no scientific reason to believe there is. It'd be easy to imagine Earth as the only planet in the universe where life exists.

Now if you want to discuss religious doctrine, knock your socks off. There's plenty of evidence that points against many elements of many religions. But that's like poking holes in the movie Independence Day in order to disprove extraterrestrial life. Even if the Bible turns out to be a 2000 year old version of Beowulf, it doesn't mean you've disproven the existence of any God.

Pardon my spelling error in that 5 minute made chart, I must look like some completely primitive blood cult drone.

I don't know of any atheists who believe in extraterrestrials. However given the size of the universe (billions of earth-like planets in the Milky Way alone) and capabilities of life to survive in extreme conditions, it's almost a given that there is some forms of life outside our planet. Like on Gliese 581 g. Last year Steven S Vogt, professor of Astronomy and Astrophysics at the University of California, said his personal view was that there is a 100% chance for primitive life forms on the planet based on his studies.

See there's evidence for panspermia, that life/bacteria can travel through space on rocks and perhaps even land on a planet in the Goldilocks zone.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's also interesting that not of these theists have actually given a reasoning to why they insist on insulting me, like that some how invalidates anything I say.

I'm ignorant because?

I'm an asshole because?

I'm an idiot because?


Feel free to enlighten everyone.

because you don't listen to them when they tell you it is how it is because they said so!

who are you to challenge priest and pastors and such!!! how dare you!!!
if they say god exist, it exists ok!


I'm sure most of them still wish they could burn anyone who challenges that!


Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money.
-George Carlin

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

because you don't listen to them when they tell you it is how it is because they said so!

who are you to challenge priest and pastors and such!!! how dare you!!!
if they say god exist, it exists ok!


I'm sure most of them still wish they could burn anyone who challenges that!


Religion has convinced people that there’s an invisible man…living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn’t want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money.
-George Carlin

No where in the Bible is your salvation contingent upon money. God created the Earth, and the fullness there in.

Here's a little joke for ya that will just go to show your lack of mental prowess, that you've already put on display for all.

A man dies and gets to Heaven, St. Peter tells him he can go back to Earth and bring 1 container full of anything he wants back with him. So the man thinks for a min, and says okay. Hustles back down to pick up the most cherished thing he can think of.

He comes back and St. Peter is curious and asks, "What's in the briefcase?" The man happily replies, "Let me show you." He lays the briefcase flat on the pedestal and slowly opens the locks. Inside the case is full of the most pristine Gold bricks. The man smiles, but St. Peter looks confused and says, "You brought pavement?"

Cute little joke, pretty silly I know, but dude, you've got serious issues if you think God NEEDS anything from you, money, love, or otherwise. He desires a relationship, and He wants your love, but in no way does God NEED anything from you, or me, or anyone else.

You guys keep confusing God with church, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The Modern day church is not at all what God intended church to become. Just like Jesus scolded the church back in the day for hosting games/gambling in the sanctuary, He wouldn't be pleased with most of churches, and how they conduct themselves.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's also interesting that not of these theists have actually given a reasoning to why they insist on insulting me, like that some how invalidates anything I say.

I'm ignorant because?

I'm an asshole because?

I'm an idiot because?


Feel free to enlighten everyone.

You may or may not be ignorant, I'm not sure if you've ever been properly educated on this topic, or any other for that matter, so that's irrelevant. If you're ignorant, that may or may not be any fault of your own.

You're an asshole because of your attitude and simply by the title of this thread.

You're an idiot because you use a Painbringer on raids and in groups, and claim that bards can't CC so you break mezzes. Outside of that, I dunno if you're really an idiot or not.

I do think it's funny that Atheists and Evolutionists are in here calling out the Theists because we're closed minded and can't possibly listen to anything anyone else has to say. But it's like they can't see that they are doing the exact same things, and in most cases are far more belligerent about their arguments.

You complain that you're being attacked, as if it's not happening to the rest of us in the thread just the same. You're the topic starter, you wanted the attention, you're getting it, congrats.

I mean I guess I'd be an Atheist too...if I had that much Faith...

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some random thoughts from my dirty, evil, atheist mind:

Why is it socially acceptable for people to come to my front door and tell me about their religious views in an effort to convert me, yet if I went to someone's door with a biology book and a pamphlet on atheism, I'd have the police called on me?

If the earth is 6 thousand-odd years old like the Bible claims, why have dinosaurs and plants turned into oil, but dead people are still skeletons? Why aren't Egyptian Kings gooey blobs in their tombs? They're both about the same age.

You don't have to allow them to share with you, you can simply not answer the door.

Where in the Bible does it claim the Earth is 6,000 years old? Find it, bring it back to me...I dare you to read it cover-to-cover and show me where it says the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

[Beauregard]

Takes about as much faith to not believe in a god as it does to not believe in Poseidon. Enjoy viewing your whole life as a test.

[Beauregard]

Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He desires a relationship, and He wants your love.

Yes this creator of the cosmos desires a relationship with you and wants your love and if you don't give it to him he will burn you in agony for all of eternity. THANKS FOR ALL THESE OPTIONS LORD.

[RocketMoose]

Originally Posted by Beauregard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes this creator of the cosmos desires a relationship with you and wants your love and if you don't give it to him he will burn you in agony for all of eternity. THANKS FOR ALL THESE OPTIONS LORD.

Who says you deserve more options?

Did Sony say, okay you've chosen to be a Darkelf, no one else in the game can be a Paladin but since you've made such a convincing argument that You and you alone should be above the rules, that we'll allow you, just you to be a Dark Elf Paladin.

I mean seriously, what is with this generation, and all of the everybody owes me something mentality?

Go make another Mr. Potato Head chart and rely on your scientific THEORIES.

There are no Scientific or any other facts that disprove God. That's why this debate is still going bro. If you had a fact, even a single fact that proved that God didn't exist, you'd forever change the world, because if there was truly a fact, that disproved God, everything would change.

You can't disprove God, just like to you, I can't prove God. God isn't into challenges, and isn't into tests. My entire life isn't a test, if you view it that way, it's no wonder you're so dead set against God. God isn't some big kid in the cosmos waiting to smite you for doing something wrong, if He was, why would he have sent his son to die as a sacrifice for you?

But it's Faith, you have Faith that there is no God, based on...theories. What you call facts.

I have Faith that there is a God, based on my own personal experiences. I can share with you my experiences, but it doesn't matter because you will just say it's unsubstantiated, or sensationalism or whatever else you want to write it off as so you can feel better about your Faith.

I don't have to attack you, in fact I feel bad for you.

I just wanna know, if there is a scientific fact that can explain everything, which is what you're saying by saying that Science proves there is no God (when it doesn't, in fact it seems to only further prove the existence of God) then what about those things that Science can't explain? What about those "UFOs" and what about people who have seen things that were very real(without the use of hallucinogens), but there is no evidence of them.

[razorz]

Everyone sucks.